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CAIRO (AP) — If the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal goes according to the current draft, then fighting will stop in Gaza for 42 days, and dozens of Israeli hostages and hundreds of Palestinian prisoners will be freed. In this first phase Israeli troops will pull back to the edges of Gaza, and many Palestinians will be able to return to what remains of their homes as stepped-up aid flows in.

The question is if the ceasefire will survive beyond that first phase.

That will depend on even more negotiations meant to begin within weeks. In those talks, Israel, Hamas, and the U.S, Egyptian and Qatari mediators will have to tackle the tough issue of how Gaza will be governed, with Israel demanding the elimination of Hamas.

Without a deal within those 42 days to begin the second phase, Israel could resume its campaign in Gaza to destroy Hamas – even as dozens of hostages remain in the militants’ hands.

Hamas has agreed to a draft of the ceasefire deal, two officials confirmed, but Israeli officials say details are still being worked out, meaning some terms could change, or the whole deal could even fall through. Here is a look at the plan and potential pitfalls in the draft seen by the Associated Press.


Draft of the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal
PHASE 1: (42 days)

Hamas releases 33 hostages, including female civilians and soldiers, children and civilians over 50
Israel releases 30 Palestinian prisoners for each civilian hostage and 50 for each female soldier
Halt to fighting, Israeli forces move out of populated areas to the edges of the Gaza Strip
Displaced Palestinians begin returning home, more aid enters the strip

PHASE 2: (42 days)

Declaration of “sustainable calm”
Hamas frees remaining male hostages (soldiers and civilians) in exchange for a yet-to-be-negotiated number of Palestinian prisoners and a full withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Gaza Strip.
PHASE 3:

Bodies of deceased Israeli hostages exchanged for bodies of deceased Palestinian fighters
Implementation of a reconstruction plan in Gaza
Border crossings for movement in and out of Gaza are reopened
read the full deal/story

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas ... 1e96487880
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phuketrichard wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:15 pm Praise be >
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CAIRO (AP) — If the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal goes according to the current draft
I admire your optimism, Richard, buut there are many on both sides who would gain from no ceasefire, I' bet $ on it NOT going according to plan.
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At best, give it another 10 years and all the mentally scarred and orphaned kids will be old enough to resume the fight for the next generation.
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Agreement reached, effective January 19. Given their history, good luck with that.

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Cameron Newbe wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:54 pm At best, give it another 10 years and all the mentally scarred and orphaned kids will be old enough to resume the fight for the next generation.
Rape babies and murder like their parents taught them to. What a fabulous culture, guess just got to keep killing them until they learn. Sooner or later they'll stop.
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WildAlaskaKen wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:47 am
Cameron Newbe wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:54 pm At best, give it another 10 years and all the mentally scarred and orphaned kids will be old enough to resume the fight for the next generation.
Rape babies and murder like their parents taught them to. What a fabulous culture, guess just got to keep killing them until they learn. Sooner or later they'll stop.
Of course nothing like that happens in other countries, right?
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Let's see how many Israeli hostages are released and the death toll is arrived at. And then see the physical and mental condition of those released and the stories they tell of their treatment, conditions and the fate of those that did not survive.

If those released look like Belsen camp survivors then the world will see Hamas in its true colours.
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Doc67 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:11 am Let's see how many Israeli hostages are released and the death toll is arrived at. And then see the physical and mental condition of those released and the stories they tell of their treatment, conditions and the fate of those that did not survive.

If those released look like Belsen camp survivors then the world will see Hamas in its true colours.
and lets see the results of those Palestinian's ( over 10,000) that have been held for ages in Israeli jails and seen the mental condition of those released and the stories they tell of their treatment.
Not to say we haven't already since the treatment of Palestine , with Gaza nearly totally destroyed an over 46,000 murdered, 106,000 wounded

two sides to this coin and neither side is blameless

BUT I am Hopeful
even Trump is onboard
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phuketrichard wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:26 am
Doc67 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:11 am Let's see how many Israeli hostages are released and the death toll is arrived at. And then see the physical and mental condition of those released and the stories they tell of their treatment, conditions and the fate of those that did not survive.

If those released look like Belsen camp survivors then the world will see Hamas in its true colours.
We have seen before the results of those Palestinians that have been held for ages in Israeli jails and seen the mental condition of those released and the stories they told of their treatment.
Not to say we haven't already since the treatment of Palestine , with Gaza nearly totally destroyed an over 46,000 murdered, 106,000 wounded

two sides to this coin and neither side is blameless

BUT I am Hopeful
even Trump is onboard
Are you comparing prisoners convicted of lethal violence to those going to a music festival who were kidnapped at gunpoint and held hostage?
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"Israel holds at least 10,000 Palestinian prisoners, according to the Commission of Detainees Affairs and the Palestinian Prisoners’ Society – though that number does not include an unknown number of Palestinians taken captive in Gaza. The figure of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel includes 3,376 people held under administrative detention, meaning they have had no public charges against them nor faced trial, including 95 children and 22 women.

Not comparing, but saying, no one is blameless

A life is a life
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