Mongering in the low season

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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Duncan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:57 am

rozzieoz wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 pm
Artful Dodger wrote:working girls = thinking super gonorrhea , hiv, syphilis = not a good idea
That’s why you wear a condom.


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Yea, but some guys should pull it down more so it covers their eyes, nose and mouth.

I always wear a hat.
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by epidemiks » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:44 pm

The expat doctor on the Kampot Noticeboard, whose patients are primarily barang afaik, posts a monthly update on general health issues he sees, and says there's 2-3 new cases of syphilis every month. For a sleepy town where nothing bad happens with zero vice, that's a significant number.
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Kuroneko » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:40 pm

epidemiks wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:44 pm
The expat doctor on the Kampot Noticeboard, whose patients are primarily barang afaik, posts a monthly update on general health issues he sees, and says there's 2-3 new cases of syphilis every month. For a sleepy town where nothing bad happensImage with zero vice, that's a significant number.
I find that hard to believe as Syphilis prevalence in Cambodia is very low. Even 15-20 years ago it started to decline. From 1998 to 2000, syphilis incidence declined from 9.0% to 1.8% and trichomoniasis incidence declined from 2.0% to 0.9%. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640393/

I could understand if he was referring to Chlamydia or Gonorrhea
From 2005 paper High prevalence of HIV and sexually transmitted infections among indirect sex workers in Cambodia.
HIV prevalence was 26%. STI prevalences were: 14% chlamydia, 12% trichomonas, 3% gonorrhea, and 0% syphilis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16314771

The rate was higher among brothel based sex workers as you would imagine and that year (2005) a survey reported: Prevalence of syphilis was 2.3%; chlamydia, 14.4%; gonorrhoea, 13.0%; and any STI, 24.4%. Prevalence of each STI in 2005 was significantly lower than in 1996, but essentially the same as prevalence observed in 2001.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640393/

Prevalence of syphilis (% of women attending antenatal care) in Cambodia was reported at 0.1 % in 2012 https://tradingeconomics.com/cambodia/p ... -data.html
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Beerinthemorning » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:43 pm

Theres statistics then theres the real world where STDs are rife.
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by epidemiks » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:48 pm

Kuroneko wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:40 pm
epidemiks wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:44 pm
The expat doctor on the Kampot Noticeboard, whose patients are primarily barang afaik, posts a monthly update on general health issues he sees, and says there's 2-3 new cases of syphilis every month. For a sleepy town where nothing bad happensImage with zero vice, that's a significant number.
I find that hard to believe as Syphilis prevalence in Cambodia is very low. Even 15-20 years ago it started to decline. From 1998 to 2000, syphilis incidence declined from 9.0% to 1.8% and trichomoniasis incidence declined from 2.0% to 0.9%. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640393/

I could understand if he was referring to Chlamydia or Gonorrhea
From 2005 paper High prevalence of HIV and sexually transmitted infections among indirect sex workers in Cambodia.
HIV prevalence was 26%. STI prevalences were: 14% chlamydia, 12% trichomonas, 3% gonorrhea, and 0% syphilis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16314771

The rate was higher among brothel based sex workers as you would imagine and that year (2005) a survey reported: Prevalence of syphilis was 2.3%; chlamydia, 14.4%; gonorrhoea, 13.0%; and any STI, 24.4%. Prevalence of each STI in 2005 was significantly lower than in 1996, but essentially the same as prevalence observed in 2001.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640393/

Prevalence of syphilis (% of women attending antenatal care) in Cambodia was reported at 0.1 % in 2012 https://tradingeconomics.com/cambodia/p ... -data.html
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note he does blame it on the riff raff migrating from sihanoukville :ROFL:

in a post from January, he mentions 2 cases as being "last year", but the above are specific about new diagnoses monthly.

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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Username Taken » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:50 pm

Syphilis stopped when Sophies closed.
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Kuroneko » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:56 pm

Beerinthemorning wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:43 pm
Theres statistics then theres the real world where STDs are rife.
Dont forget I worked here from 1996 with the MOH and also on HIV and STI related issues. There were high rates of Syphilis when I worked in Southern Africa in the "80's and also in Aboriginal communities in Australia, but not here.
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Kuroneko » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:10 pm

epidemiks wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:48 pm
Kuroneko wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:40 pm
epidemiks wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:44 pm
The expat doctor on the Kampot Noticeboard, whose patients are primarily barang afaik, posts a monthly update on general health issues he sees, and says there's 2-3 new cases of syphilis every month. For a sleepy town where nothing bad happensImage with zero vice, that's a significant number.
I find that hard to believe as Syphilis prevalence in Cambodia is very low. Even 15-20 years ago it started to decline. From 1998 to 2000, syphilis incidence declined from 9.0% to 1.8% and trichomoniasis incidence declined from 2.0% to 0.9%. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640393/

I could understand if he was referring to Chlamydia or Gonorrhea
From 2005 paper High prevalence of HIV and sexually transmitted infections among indirect sex workers in Cambodia.
HIV prevalence was 26%. STI prevalences were: 14% chlamydia, 12% trichomonas, 3% gonorrhea, and 0% syphilis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16314771

The rate was higher among brothel based sex workers as you would imagine and that year (2005) a survey reported: Prevalence of syphilis was 2.3%; chlamydia, 14.4%; gonorrhoea, 13.0%; and any STI, 24.4%. Prevalence of each STI in 2005 was significantly lower than in 1996, but essentially the same as prevalence observed in 2001.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640393/

Prevalence of syphilis (% of women attending antenatal care) in Cambodia was reported at 0.1 % in 2012 https://tradingeconomics.com/cambodia/p ... -data.html
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note he does blame it on the riff raff migrating from sihanoukville :ROFL:

in a post from January, he mentions 2 cases as being "last year", but the above are specific about new diagnoses monthly.

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That's really surprising, interesting info, I could imagine having a couple of cases over the year, but not a month, (edit sorry I missed that he mentions plenty of Chlamydia or Gonorrhea) As you mention " he does blame it on the riff raff migrating from sihanoukville" could be tourists from Europe or Nigeria! :D
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Username Taken » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:59 pm

. . . . or, the Chinese.
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Re: Mongering in the low season

Post by Artful Dodger » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:35 pm

To throw the cat among the pigeons........


2005 ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16314771
Abstract
OBJECTIVES:
The goal of this study was to assess the baseline prevalence of and risk factors for HIV and other sexually transmitted infections (STIs) among beer girls enrolled in a behavioral intervention in Battambang, Cambodia.

METHODS:
Ninety-two of 114 women participated in baseline interviewing, HIV/STI testing, and STI treatment. Blood specimens were tested for syphilis and HIV infection. Self-administered vaginal swabs were tested for trichomonas, bacterial vaginosis (BV), gonorrhea, and chlamydia infections.

RESULTS:
HIV prevalence was 26%. STI prevalences were: 14% chlamydia, 12% trichomonas, 3% gonorrhea, and 0% syphilis. The prevalence of BV was 43%. A history of sex work was reported by 82%. Consistent condom use with clients was reported by 39%. Increased number of partners and symptoms of STI were significantly associated with HIV infection.

DISCUSSION:
These data suggest high sexual risk among beer girls in Cambodia. Targeted and frequent HIV and STI interventions are urgently needed in this population.


2016.... https://www.iamat.org/country/cambodia/ ... infections

2017.... http://www.unaids.org/en/regionscountri ... s/cambodia

2017..... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5584046/
HIV prevalence remains high in Cambodia among female entertainment and sex workers (FESW), and amphetamine-type stimulant (ATS) use significantly increases risk of infection.......
Median age of the 88 HIV-positive women was 32 years [interquartile range (IQR) 28, 35]; 50% were working in entertainment venues and 50% as freelance sex workers; 70% reported SMARTgirl membership. In the past 3 months, women reported a median of 15 sex partners, 38% reported unprotected sex, and 55% reported using ATS.
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