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Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:43 pm
by juansweetpotato
Once a Khmer has passed out of Cambodian controlled social influence they are no longer Cambodian. Reminds me of Vietnam and the Viet Q.
Something akin to 'If you don't live in Cambodia your not Cambodian?'
AFAI knew, Cambodia became a free-market society with the formation of SOC in the late 90's, casting off it's Communist credentials. So nothing to do with that.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/e ... -pms-visit
The ruling party’s statement, which made no mention of the demonstrators’ complaints, held a different view.

“The majority of the protesters were Cambodian who earned a foreign citizenship, therefore those individuals . . . have no rights to interfere the internal affairs [of Cambodia],” the statement said.

However, Hy Panhavuth, one of the protests’ organisers, rebuffed the CPP’s claim yesterday, ahead of another demonstration scheduled to take place by the Cambodian Embassy in Paris, saying “of course we are Cambodians”.

“We, like all Khmers, are concerned by the problems in Cambodia; they affect us,” he said adding, “we are in a democratic country; we have a right to make our voice heard”.
No mention of eggs.

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:07 pm
by JanKrohn
Why is a state visit an internal Cambodian affair anyway? Never heard about such a thing as an "internal state visit"...

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:41 pm
by LTO
Something of a weaker corollary to the long standing CPP contention that those who hold dual citizenship shouldn't have the right to hold office in Cambodia, or even vote in Cambodian elections. Controversial but not wholly without merit...the idea that those with split loyalties and the option to go live somewhere else when they feel like it, do not have the same stake in country as citizens who live here and have to deal fully with the consequences of their political actions. And a bit of the flipside of the feeling of many Khmers that Cambodian nationals (or those entitled to Cambodian citizenship) but who are not Khmer, are not really Cambodians.

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:05 am
by JanKrohn
That rule is being discussed for the single reason to keep one certain individual from becoming PM of Cambodia. It has nothing to do with loyalty.

Personal finances determine whether you're stuck with the country a lot more than citizenship. Now go to the CPP, and propose to them that individuals with a bank account of more than $1,000,000 should no longer be allowed to hold an office or vote, because they're more loyal to $$$ than to Cambodia... I'd say that statement has a lot more truth than yours (but wouldn't earn more than a mild smile from any CPP official).

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:20 am
by Anchor Moy
France is a free country. Some of those people may be demonstrating there because they are afraid to do it here. Some of them may just be French people who want to draw attention to the subject of human rights abuses in Cambodia.
Anyway, HE doesn't get to say who protests in France. Anyone can protest, you don't have to belong to a specific nationality. It's called freedom of expression.

“The majority of the protesters were Cambodian who earned a foreign citizenship, therefore those individuals . . . have no rights to interfere the internal affairs [of Cambodia],” the statement said...
You can't have it both ways - denounce interference in your country's affairs, then critcize the internal affairs (ie; the right to protest) in another country.

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:27 am
by LTO
JanKrohn wrote:That rule is being discussed for the single reason to keep one certain individual from becoming PM of Cambodia. It has nothing to do with loyalty...
It's not an either/or, and both sides play politics.

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:43 am
by JanKrohn
No side is better, that's for sure, and that's nothing I wanted to imply.

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:45 am
by John Bingham
juansweetpotato wrote: AFAI knew, Cambodia became a free-market society with the formation of SOC in the late 90's, casting off it's Communist credentials. So nothing to do with that.
SOC was formed in 1989.

Re: Expats protest PM’s visit

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:13 am
by juansweetpotato
John Bingham wrote:
juansweetpotato wrote: AFAI knew, Cambodia became a free-market society with the formation of SOC in the late 90's, casting off it's Communist credentials. So nothing to do with that.
SOC was formed in 1989.
Opps!, Thanks for the correction. Can't edit it out.