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Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:22 pm
by Clutch Cargo
Jeez..I was thinking of taking Mrs Cargo to this place pre Covid..after reading this, I'm not so sure :chin:

Vietnam’s biggest island long held onto a seductive image as the country’s ‘last paradise.’ Then came the clubs, a casino, and a safari.

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Travelers who arrive on the Southeast Asian island of Phu Quoc may be forgiven for thinking they are in Venice, the Amalfi Coast, or Paris – anywhere but Vietnam.

When Ken Atkinson first visited the Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc in 2003, he was struck by its beauty.

“It was similar to Phuket or Samui when these Thai islands started from nothing,” Atkinson said of the island, which is southwest of Vietnam. The executive chairman of Grant Thornton Vietnam, Atkinson has been based in Ho Chi Minh City for more than two decades.

Hawksbill and green turtles nested on its white-sand beaches. Crystal-clear waters teemed with coral reefs. Much of the 593-square-kilometer island was covered with forest ecosystems. There were no more than 45,000 residents then, and their key occupations included fishing, producing Vietnam’s best seafood and fish sauce, cultivating green pepper, and farming pearls. The nature on Phu Quoc (pronounced foo kwok) was flourishing so richly that UNESCO designated the island a biosphere reserve in 2006.

“To me, it was a diamond in the rough,” said Atkinson. “There was a great opportunity to develop Phu Quoc into something spectacular in Vietnam.”

Fast forward to 2021, and Vietnam’s biggest island has indeed been developed into something new – but it’s also become something unrecognizable.

Previously, Phu Quoc was likely to be mentioned in the same breath as Bali or South Korea’s Jeju – islands that promoted local culture as they developed their tourism scenes. Now Vietnam’s largest island is more likely to be compared to Las Vegas or China’s Hainan. Phu Quoc is on steroids with the kind of development that’s already threatening its seductive image as the “last paradise” of Vietnam.

Thousands of hotel rooms, condotel units, and row upon row of cookie-cutter shophouses, villas, and residences are being built as far as the eye can see.

“They’ve got more rooms than Sydney, Australia. There’s something like 30,000 hotel rooms, built, under construction, or in the planning stage,” said Atkinson, whose firm provides financial advisory and transaction support to investors. “That’s excluding Vingroup’s 12,000 additional rooms, and before all the condotels, villa developments and residences, which means at least 40,000 hotel rooms.”

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Development stretches as far as the eye can see on a Phu Quoc beach.

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A canal on Phu Quoc is built up to look like Venice, replete with candy-colored storefronts.

The Phu Quoc International Airport opened in 2012, opening the floodgates for domestic tourism to the island. The airport primarily operates routes from Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi. In 2018, plans were announced for a second runway and passenger terminal to handle 14 million passengers a year by 2030, up from four million currently, according to a Center for Aviation report.

Most of the projects appear to be aimed at the fast-growing Vietnam middle-class. Many of their websites are in Vietnamese. The vast majority of the five million visitors who visited in 2019 were locals, said the experts interviewed for this article.

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I’m afraid that Phu Quoc can’t be as natural with fresh air, beautiful beach and forest as it used to be,’ a Phu Quoc resident told Insider.

Full: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/phu- ... ake-2021-9

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:55 pm
by SternAAlbifrons
"Tourists are irresponsible.
They go along, in their march of stupidity, without any notion of accountability for their large, ruinous footprints: the mark of their ignorance and disregard.
They are an army of fools, wearing bright polyesters, riding camels, taking pictures of each other, haggard, dysenteric, thirsty"


Don DeLillo, in his commentary on contemporary society, The Names.


Anyway, it's spelt K. O. H, T. R. A. L.
And it's in Khmer Krom, not Vietnam
8)

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:58 pm
by jaynewcastle
I've only been once, in Jan 2020. As you fly over the island coming into land, you can see all the building work, especially in the south of the island, where there are many huge resorts being built or newly completed.

Had a couple of bus trips down to the southern end where the worlds longest cable car is, there is not much land that isn't being developed. Only went up the northern end once, not so busy, but still huge resorts & developments being built

It was a nice place to visit, beaches were ok but many other places I'd like to visit before I think of going back to PQ

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:58 pm
by hanno
I first went in something like 98 or 99. A few more times after that but after my last visit 2-3 years ago, I vowed to never return. They completely fcuked the place, with all the big companies like Vinpearl and Sungroup trying to outdo each other. And not in a good way.

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:05 pm
by Bitte_Kein_Lexus
Yeah I went two years ago and wasn't impressed. It was alright and fun in some ways, but Koh Chang is way better in pretty much every respect. Phu Quoc has a sort of "let's mass produce this" mentality. Build it and they will come. The place is basically a huge construction site, but poorly designed and already run down. A bit like Sihanoukville with weird condo developments in the middle of nowhere. I suspect they were hoping for a neverending influx of Chinese and Russians?

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:54 pm
by SternAAlbifrons
It has a very interesting history, especially if you are interested in the Cambodian coast's political and military dynamic over time.

Cambodia’s Impossible Dream: Koh Tral
History doesn’t appear to support claims by the Cambodian opposition to the Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc.

Artifacts in the Heritage Museum at Phu Quoc evidence human habitation going back 2,500 years, long before a Khmer nation existed. Pottery there from what the Vietnamese refer to as the Oc Eo period (1st -7th century AD) suggests at least a proto-Khmer presence on the island during a period preceding the establishment of the Angkorian empire...


https://thediplomat.com/2014/06/cambodi ... -koh-tral/

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:17 pm
by John Bingham
I was there around 2011. It was still relatively undeveloped but they had carved out a huge chunk of the middle of the island to build a massive airport. It looks fucked now.

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:00 am
by Pseudonomdeplume
On the spot fines for littering, as Oz, tax the shit out of it to pay for cleaning troops. The colour scheme might clash with my hangovers.

Follow the backpackers to the next yet-to-be-spoilt spot.

There's still Ha Long Bay in VN, Vanuatu, Tuvalu, if you need to catch up on some sleep and Papua New Guinea has some unspoiled areas, and the friendly locals will gladly have you over for dinner. Theirs.

The rest that I know of are either expensive, unspoiled for a reason - colder than the ex's tits in a brass bra - or Galapagos.

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:04 am
by angkorjohn2
John Bingham wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:17 pm I was there around 2011. It was still relatively undeveloped but they had carved out a huge chunk of the middle of the island to build a massive airport. It looks fucked now.
I visited in 2011 as well, I did get the feeling I had already missed out on the best time by a good few years. There were some abandoned beachside resorts but a lot of building of hotels for/by Russian investors/tourists. Whilst it was a pleasant stay, nice food, nice beach, nice to cycle around, and as you say some of it was really underdeveloped especially some of the roads I did feel it was on the way to being ruined as an island version of Nha Trang. From what Hanno says it sounds like that's what happened. Sad to see.

Re: Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:09 am
by hanno
Pseudonomdeplume wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:00 am There's still Ha Long Bay in VN,
Ha Long Bay is fcuked beyound all recognition. I worked there in 1997 when there was bugger all. Now, there are gazillions of boats, parking overnight in the same area for "safety reasons" (woe upon you if one of the boats has a Karaoke party going on) and the water is unsuitable for swimming.

Ha Long:

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