How the English deal with Police
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:42 pm
Just came across this on facebook, a Scouser getting rid of a copper in quality style...
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OK Samouth, you go first.Samouth wrote:wow the man is really rude. It should be police in Rumdol country who deserve this treatment.
hes not rude, the policeman who thinks he can trespass on the mans property is rude,Samouth wrote:wow the man is really rude. It should be police in Rumdol country who deserve this treatment.
In the British model of policing, officers exercise their powers to police with the implicit consent of the public. "Policing by consent" is the phrase used to describe this. It expresses that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so
In the United Kingdom, every person has limited powers of arrest if they see a crime being committed: at common law in Scotland, and in England and Wales if the crime is indictable[4] – these are called "every person powers", commonly referred to as a "citizen's arrest". In England and Wales, the vast majority of attested constables enjoy full powers of arrest and search as granted by the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. All police officers are "constables" in law, irrespective of rank. Although police officers have wide ranging powers, they are still subject to the same laws as members of the public.
Powers of entry
When can the police enter and search
Police can only enter premises without a warrant if a serious or dangerous incident has taken place.
Situations in which the police can enter premises without a warrant include when they want to:
deal with a breach of the peace or prevent it
enforce an arrest warrant
arrest a person in connection with certain offences
recapture someone who has escaped from custody
save life or prevent serious damage to property.
Apart from when they are preventing serious injury to life or property, the police must have reasonable grounds for believing that the person they are looking for is on the premises.
If the police do arrest you, they can also enter and search any premises where you were during or immediately before the arrest. They can search only for evidence relating to the offence for which you have been arrested or to some other offence which is connected with or similar to that offence, and they must have reasonable grounds for believing there is evidence there. They can also search any premises occupied by someone who is under arrest for certain serious offences. Again, the police officer who carries out the search must have reasonable grounds for suspecting that there is evidence on the premises relating to the offence or a similar offence.
In other circumstances, the police must have a search warrant before they can enter the premises. They should enter property at a reasonable hour unless this would frustrate their search. When the occupier is present, the police must ask for permission to search the property – again, unless it would frustrate the search to do this.
When they are carrying out a search police officers must:
identify themselves and - if they are not in uniform - show their warrant card, and
explain why they want to search, the rights of the occupier and whether the search is made with a search warrant or not.
If the police have a warrant, they can force entry if:
the occupier has refused entry, or
it is impossible to communicate with the occupier, or
the occupier is absent, or
the premises are unoccupied, or
they have reasonable grounds for believing that if they do not force entry it would hinder the search, or someone would be placed in danger.
Powers of entry
When can the police enter and search
Police can only enter premises without a warrant if a serious or dangerous incident has taken place.
Situations in which the police can enter premises without a warrant include when they want to:
deal with a breach of the peace or prevent it
enforce an arrest warrant
arrest a person in connection with certain offences
recapture someone who has escaped from custody
save life or prevent serious damage to property.
Apart from when they are preventing serious injury to life or property, the police must have reasonable grounds for believing that the person they are looking for is on the premises.
If the police do arrest you, they can also enter and search any premises where you were during or immediately before the arrest. They can search only for evidence relating to the offence for which you have been arrested or to some other offence which is connected with or similar to that offence, and they must have reasonable grounds for believing there is evidence there. They can also search any premises occupied by someone who is under arrest for certain serious offences. Again, the police officer who carries out the search must have reasonable grounds for suspecting that there is evidence on the premises relating to the offence or a similar offence.
In other circumstances, the police must have a search warrant before they can enter the premises. They should enter property at a reasonable hour unless this would frustrate their search. When the occupier is present, the police must ask for permission to search the property – again, unless it would frustrate the search to do this.
When they are carrying out a search police officers must:
identify themselves and - if they are not in uniform - show their warrant card, and
explain why they want to search, the rights of the occupier and whether the search is made with a search warrant or not.
If the police have a warrant, they can force entry if:
the occupier has refused entry, or
it is impossible to communicate with the occupier, or
the occupier is absent, or
the premises are unoccupied, or
they have reasonable grounds for believing that if they do not force entry it would hinder the search, or someone would be placed in danger.
yeah deffo couldnt of got away with that in the states hahahaSailorman wrote:The police in America get around the law by stating that they had 'probable cause," to believe a crime was being committed. They thought they heard a person being assaulted, or a crime being committed , or someone thinking bad thoughts, there was a religious cult because it wasn't a main stream Christian religion, (but they can't shoot if its Islamic crazies) , so they break the door down, shot the residents, the resident's blind dog, the resident's children (Oh! the child had a gun! but it was a rattle), the resident's 90 year old grandmother,shoot the neighbors as they were witness's to the police crimes OR call in a military SWAT team that every town in America now has and do all of the above. America's police have been turned into thugs.
This guy in the video did the right thing, but would be dead in America.