COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

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COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Jacobincambodia » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:06 pm

I know I'm going to get crapped on for this, but I sincerely want to hear everybody's perspective on giving cops bribes. I know it's an easy way to get by, but seriously it helps no one. Just like it's not a good idea to to give money to begging children, it's not a good idea to hand over cash to cops if you don't get a ticket. Do your part and stop feeding the cycle.

I've been pulled over a few times and I've yet to pay a dime for an infraction via a bribe. I'm totally willing to, but the cop refuses to write a ticket! He wants coke, beer and money. I don't give any of it. If you are interested in trying this out, these are normally the steps I take when I make a mistake.

1. Typically, I ask the cop what I did wrong.
2. I acknowledge my horrible sin and he normally asks me for my license next.
3. NEVER give your original license over. That's now his leverage. I always carry a copy and usually leave my original at home.
4. Arguing usually commences and I tell the cop I don't carry my original because of corruption.
5. The cop usually throws a bone and offers an easy way out like paying a small bribe. I simply tell him no.
6. Before he can adjust his bribe, I flat out tell him I understand the law and you have to give me a ticket.
7. He might argue more...
8. You either get the irritated wave off or more arguing commences.
9. If it goes beyond that, I demand to speak to his boss so I can complain. After that, I almost always get the wave off.

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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:22 pm

Jacob, that would work most of the time, but I really worry for you on the one time it doesn't. Demanding to talk to the guy's boss is a really bad idea as the boss is already into it for a percentage - I could see the one in a hundred time of you being packed off for a longer 'discussion' with the cop and a few of his cop mates.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Jacobincambodia » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:22 pm

StroppyChops wrote:Jacob, that would work most of the time, but I really worry for you on the one time it doesn't. Demanding to talk to the guy's boss is a really bad idea as the boss is already into it for a percentage - I could see the one in a hundred time of you being packed off for a longer 'discussion' with the cop and a few of his cop mates.
This is all done in a completely professional but firm manner :).
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:27 pm

If your moto is found in the street without you, can I have it?
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by vladimir » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:28 pm

In this instance, Jacob is 100%.

Tell them to fork off. In the event of trouble, give them 5000 riel, max 10000 riel.

I last paid a fine 5 years ago. $1. This may have something to do with the fake webcam/LED I have attached to the top of my helmet...

Keep your cash apart from your wallet.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:30 pm

I got 'approached' by a cop near Olympic Stadium the other day. I was in the back of a tuktuk! I played dumb - Soosy DAY! Soosy DAY! - and he lost interest and wandered off.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by FreeSocrates! » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:56 pm

Once you know where they are you can just maneuver around them.

We should collectively make a "Barang" adventure map.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Rain Dog » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:32 pm

StroppyChops wrote:Jacob, that would work most of the time, but I really worry for you on the one time it doesn't. Demanding to talk to the guy's boss is a really bad idea as the boss is already into it for a percentage - I could see the one in a hundred time of you being packed off for a longer 'discussion' with the cop and a few of his cop mates.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Jacobincambodia » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:58 pm

vladimir wrote:In this instance, Jacob is 100%.

Tell them to fork off. In the event of trouble, give them 5000 riel, max 10000 riel.

I last paid a fine 5 years ago. $1. This may have something to do with the fake webcam/LED I have attached to the top of my helmet...

Keep your cash apart from your wallet.
You should put a gropro camera on your helmet!
StroppyChops wrote:I got 'approached' by a cop near Olympic Stadium the other day. I was in the back of a tuktuk! I played dumb - Soosy DAY! Soosy DAY! - and he lost interest and wandered off.
Why would a cop be approaching you in a Tuk Tuk? Didn't have your seatbelt fastened?
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Sailorman » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:11 pm

While driving in PP (car/truck) I was pulled over for going straight from a turn lane. They are not marked much ahead of time and in traffic your screwed if your in a turn lane. I had some time so I argued that I averted an accident by going straight and they were not alert and did not see it. When they wanted to give me a ticket and me give them money, I hauled out a copy (from the internet) of their boss (Chief of Police) saying to get a receipt. I demanded a receipt and they took me to the head guy who said I had to get a receipt from the police station. I pointed to the paper a told him that was a incorrect and his boss said so. I told him if he didn't want to give me a receipt to get a higher guy down there. The head guy have me back my license and waved me away.
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