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Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:19 pm
by Clutch Cargo
I came across this article about electric rickshaws in India which apparently are taking off, cheaper and cleaner on the environment. Made me wonder whether the indian tuktuks that run on gas here will move to electric?

Full story https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/tech ... kshaw.html

India’s million e-rickshaws make up the second-largest collection of electric vehicles in the world. Only China’s fleet of several hundred million electric motorcycles and bicycles is bigger.

In the country’s northern cities, where e-rickshaws are concentrated, the vehicles are supplanting auto-rickshaws, the better-known three-wheelers that serve as neighborhood taxis, seat up to three people and run on diesel, gasoline or natural gas.

E-rickshaws reduce air pollution in places like New Delhi, one of the world’s smoggiest cities. Officials there now offer a subsidy of 30,000 rupees, or about $425, to drivers who buy new ones.

As the vehicles’ popularity has grown, Indian companies have tweaked the original Chinese designs. New brands like Saarthi, one of the biggest manufacturers of e-rickshaws in the Delhi area, have emerged, as has an ecosystem of parts suppliers and neighborhood parking lots where drivers can store and recharge their vehicles overnight.

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The start-up SmartE operates a fleet of about 1,000 e-rickshaws in the Delhi area, charging them overnight at its own parking lots.

The central government is now trying to force motorcycle and auto-rickshaw makers to go all-electric, too. It just cut taxes on electric vehicles and has proposed subsidies for batteries and charging stations. Along with those carrots is a stick: a requirement that all new three-wheeled vehicles be electric by 2023 and that two-wheeled ones meet that goal by 2025.

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:26 pm
by Username Taken
And, where does the power come from to charge the batteries? Hopefully it's something like solar rather than coal-fired power station.

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:33 pm
by SternAAlbifrons
The United Tuk Tuk Drivers of Cambodia Guild fully supports this development.
Where do our drivers pick up the $425 cash subsidy so we can get started?
('promise)

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:16 pm
by pczz
Username Taken wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:26 pm And, where does the power come from to charge the batteries? Hopefully it's something like solar rather than coal-fired power station.
No its coming from chinese hydropower, assumeing we have enogh rain! the electicity supply in Cambodia is not curently up to the job

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:58 am
by Spigzy
I always think that the time required to recharge these electric vehicles is an absurd waste of time. Should work well here!

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:12 pm
by Duncan
Spigzy wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:58 am I always think that the time required to recharge these electric vehicles is an absurd waste of time. Should work well here!


Well I always thought a electric tuk-tuk that sits around all day waiting for a passenger should have a solar panel on the roof. Most would / could have a battery big enough to last through the night.

Make money while the sun shines so the saying goes.

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:41 pm
by IraHayes
The dirty secret of electric vehicles

And the Amnesty International report they mention

Then of course there is the pollution generated in the pursuit of renewable energy

And just like the The Great Horse Manure Crisis of 1894 innovation in the free market will find a way to make this problem go away NOT more government intervention!

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:47 pm
by Kammekor
Duncan wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:12 pm
Spigzy wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:58 am I always think that the time required to recharge these electric vehicles is an absurd waste of time. Should work well here!


Well I always thought a electric tuk-tuk that sits around all day waiting for a passenger should have a solar panel on the roof. Most would / could have a battery big enough to last through the night.

Make money while the sun shines so the saying goes.
The problem is solar doesn’t generate that much. 1 sqm can generate about 180 W. So per tuk tuk that would be how much with a safe installation? 50 W? 80 W?. That’ll be enough to burn the lights and charge/run his cellphone and add very little juice to the battery.

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:54 pm
by Duncan
Kammekor wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:47 pm
Duncan wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:12 pm
Spigzy wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:58 am I always think that the time required to recharge these electric vehicles is an absurd waste of time. Should work well here!


Well I always thought a electric tuk-tuk that sits around all day waiting for a passenger should have a solar panel on the roof. Most would / could have a battery big enough to last through the night.

Make money while the sun shines so the saying goes.
The problem is solar doesn’t generate that much. 1 sqm can generate about 180 W. So per tuk tuk that would be how much with a safe installation? 50 W? 80 W?. That’ll be enough to burn the lights and charge/run his cellphone and add very little juice to the battery.

Is that per hour or over 8 hours of sitting in the sun ?

Re: Will electric tuktuks come to Cambodia?

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:56 pm
by Kammekor
Per hour per sqm. So to power a 1 kW engine constantly during daytime you’d need about 8 sqm.