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Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:02 am
by Chester
I might be getting the wrong impression as I am only going on information from here but it seems from news articles there is a huge problem with drugs and crime in PP.
Is this correct?
I don’t actually live in the kingdom although I have visited regularly for about 12 years. I did live in Saigon where there was loads of Heroin and Ice and a ton of street crime in District One. (The main tourist area) I also regularly saw people injecting drugs on bridges over the river.
I now live in Vientiane where there seems to be hardly any crime at all. My girlfriend even leaves her bag on the motorcycle when going into a shop which you wouldn’t dream of doing in Saigon.
I have been told a lot of people take yaba here and I have seen a woman smoking it in a doorway but I have never been offered any. It seems heroin is non existent here and there is very little crime.
So why so many drugs and so much crime in PP and HCMC but so low here?
Just curious.
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:08 am
by cptrelentless
Chester wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:02 am
I might be getting the wrong impression as I am only going on information from here but it seems from news articles there is a huge problem with drugs and crime in PP.
Is this correct?
I don’t actually live in the kingdom although I have visited regularly for about 12 years. I did live in Saigon where there was loads of Heroin and Ice and a ton of street crime in District One. (The main tourist area) I also regularly saw people injecting drugs on bridges over the river.
I now live in Vientiane where there seems to be hardly any crime at all. My girlfriend even leaves her bag on the motorcycle when going into a shop which you wouldn’t dream of doing in Saigon.
I have been told a lot of people take yaba here and I have seen a woman smoking it in a doorway but I have never been offered any. It seems heroin is non existent here and there is very little crime.
So why so many drugs and so much crime in PP and HCMC but so low here?
Just curious.
If you are living with your girlfriend in Vientiane then you are a criminal already. They are neither terrible nor great:
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/region_ran ... region=142
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:15 am
by Chester
That law about co habitation is never enforced here.
Also I have done a Baci ceremony with her and filled out marriage forms at my embassy as I am marrying here early next year.
I am just curious why the levels of drug use and crime differ so much between countries that are culturally similar.
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:18 am
by frank lee bent
I don't think injecting is a big deal in KOW.
Plenty of ice smoking.
Heroin seems widely available, judging by offers from tuktuks, but I don't seem to see much evidence of locals using it.
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:25 am
by siliconlife
frank lee bent wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:18 am
I don't think injecting is a big deal in KOW.
Plenty of ice smoking.
Heroin seems widely available, judging by offers from tuktuks, but I don't seem to see much evidence of locals using it.
My wife's village has recently seen a huge influx of dealers from Phnom Penh coming in selling needles and heroin/meth. The village is shocked because they have never seen so many shooters before, including children. I remember seeing quite a few needles floating around in the floods in PP when I was living there back in the early '10s. It's hard to say the extent of what's really going on.
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:30 am
by siliconlife
Pattaya has more crime than Baghdad
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 am
by Anthony's Weiner
cptrelentless wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:08 am
An interesting read, Phuket has a worse crime rate than PP. Odd Richard never mentions it.
Chester,
Canada and the USA are next door to each other and are culturally similar but have very different crime and incarceration rates.
Have you been to @Home Night Club? Drugs seemed readily available and I have grey hair, Vang Vieng was quite a party town 10 or so years ago.
Drones, big money and cheap drugs: the Laos route spewing meth into Thailand
https://www.thejakartapost.com/seasia/2 ... iland.html
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:50 am
by phuketrichard
An interesting read, Phuket has a worse crime rate than PP. Odd Richard never mentions it.
I'd love to understand more about their survey and how they get the results>
This section is based on surveys from visitors of this website. Questions for these surveys are similar to many similar scientific and government surveys.
who visits their site?? what questions?
I feel, There is much less crime here than in PP, Never hear of random bag snatches, never hear of hold ups, no beggars, No flips working con games, seldom, if ever, OD's
we do have;
Tuk tuk /taxi drivers overcharging for trips,( always get a quote before you get in the car, tuk tuk)
The odd ladyboys ripping customers off
Chinese being over charged
Occasional murders of Burmese
Time share
Farangs falling /Jumping off Balcony's
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:12 pm
by AndyKK
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:50 am
An interesting read, Phuket has a worse crime rate than PP. Odd Richard never mentions it.
I'd love to understand more about their survey and how they get the results>
This section is based on surveys from visitors of this website. Questions for these surveys are similar to many similar scientific and government surveys.
who visits their site?? what questions?
I feel, There is much less crime here than in PP, Never hear of random bag snatches, never hear of hold ups, no beggars, No flips working con games, seldom, if ever, OD's
we do have;
Tuk tuk /taxi drivers overcharging for trips,( always get a quote before you get in the car, tuk tuk)
The odd ladyboys ripping customers off
Chinese being over charged
Occasional murders of Burmese
Time share
Farangs falling /Jumping off Balcony's
It may or may not be worth looking here..
https://www.farang-deaths.com/
"Anthony's Weiner" Good article that one.
Also that does baffle me at times, drug dealers or mules being caught at the international land borders. "Westerners I can more understand" mostly having to use the border. But neighbouring nationals! How easy not to use the official border crossings.
Re: Drugs and crime
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:15 pm
by cptrelentless
Chester wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:15 am
That law about co habitation is never enforced here.
That'll be new, then. I know two people who got busted in the 2000s.