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Gibbons roaming around Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:52 am
by xandreu
So I was stood on my balcony a couple days ago having a quiet cigarette, as you do, and I became aware of an animal noise, slowly increasing in volume, but eventually becoming overpowering in volume to the point where I released this was not a normal sound from a normal animal that I'd heard before. It's difficult to replicate in text so I won't bother, but I recognised it instantly as being from a primate of some kind.

Low and behold, I scoured my surroundings and saw, what I first evaluated as being a monkey, sitting on a bunch of the elevated wires which adorn the streets of Phnom Penh. I called to my partner, who was sleeping at the time, and said to come and look. It was quite a powerful looking beast which, by the time my partner had got up and come out, had started to swing its way further down the road, using the wires as if they were the tree branches of it's natural habitat.

We both looked on from our sixth floor vantage, watching it swing it's way up to the end of the road, and wondered what we should do. My partner, who's Khmer, mentioned that there was some sort of institution in place that we could call, but the monkey (which, by now I'd reconised as a Gibbon) was moving so fast, it seemed pointless to call anyone. As the Gibbon was so high up in the wires, nobody else seemed to be noticing it. The road beneath, the moto's, pedestrians etc, seemed entirely oblivious to the fact that a rather large and dare I say, slightly dangerous looking primate was swinging it's way up the road above them.

It eventually got to the end of the road and swung it's way across to another street. Myself and my partner took the easy way out and convinced ourselves that it was now somebody else's problem and that someone else would surely call someone and do something about it. As you do.

So this morning, I leave my apartment to go to work, and while I'm getting my bike out, ready to go to work, I hear the same primate call that I'd heard just yesterday. I went outside, and there's three of the little buggers, swinging their way down the road towards my apartment. These were about half the size of the one I saw yesterday, and looked relatively harmless (I guess, not being a gibbon expert etc) This time, other people had noticed, and were taking pictures and videos on their phones. I had my phone with me, so I was able to film them too. I went to work and showed my video to some Khmer work colleagues who all seemed astounded that wild gibbons were roaming around the streets of PP.

When I got home, I showed the video to my landlord who seemed much less impressed than anyone else. He seemed to know all about them. Apparently, there is some sort of sanctuary near where I live, where the gibbons live, and they're let out during the day for exercise, but they know to go home at the end of the day? I asked my partner to ask him about the dangers involved - both to them attacking people (the one I saw yesterday I would not want to meet down a dark alley late at night) and also to them electrocuting themselves if they touch the wrong bit of the wrong wire while they're swinging along them. I didn't need to understand Khmer to understand what the shrugging of shoulders meant.

I've lived where I live for almost a year now, and I've not seen this before. Whatever's going on is something new around here, as I'm sure would be anywhere in PP.

Does anyone have any info on these gibbons? Anyone else seen them?

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:11 am
by Arget
Any chance of adding you photos?

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:34 am
by frank lee bent
swinging certainly differentiates them from macaques.
as does the lack of a tail.
they are of course, an ape rather than a monkey, as one of our members may confirm.

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:37 pm
by hanno
frank lee bent wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:34 am swinging certainly differentiates them from macaques.
as does the lack of a tail.
they are of course, an ape rather than a monkey, as one of our members may confirm.
Indeed. Maybe some Okhna's pets? Like the Green Peafowl.

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 pm
by Barang_doa_slae
Maybe I am mistaken but gibbons aren’t dangerous. Anyway I saw one crossing the road to Koh Kong once was quite amazed at the sight.

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:21 pm
by hanno
Barang_doa_slae wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 pm Maybe I am mistaken but gibbons aren’t dangerous. Anyway I saw one crossing the road to Koh Kong once was quite amazed at the sight.
A hotel I worked in had a Gibbon (one of the first things I did was have it picked up and sent to the Primate Rescue Center). Anyway, this Gibbon hated females and would attack them on sight. Now, their teeth are not very big but certainly big enough to draw blood. We all thought it was a he but, once it was at the rescue center, it turned it was a she and they people their figured she was plain jealous. Interesting tidbit: Gibbons' sexual organs look similar in males and females.

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:30 pm
by Duncan
hanno wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:21 pm
Barang_doa_slae wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 pm Maybe I am mistaken but gibbons aren’t dangerous. Anyway I saw one crossing the road to Koh Kong once was quite amazed at the sight.
A hotel I worked in had a Gibbon (one of the first things I did was have it picked up and sent to the Primate Rescue Center). Anyway, this Gibbon hated females and would attack them on sight. Now, their teeth are not very big but certainly big enough to draw blood. We all thought it was a he but, once it was at the rescue center, it turned it was a she and they people their figured she was plain jealous. Interesting tidbit: Gibbons' sexual organs look similar in males and females.
How long did it take you to do a search on that? <:

Re: Gibbons roaming around Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:37 pm
by Barang_doa_slae
Talking about gibbons anyone knew that strange German nerd in the mid 2000 who built a huge cage for his pet gibbon on ocheteal beach? Other clues are he was writing strange notes with tiny letters, spoke Russian and found some ways to get married with a kon neak mien daughter before disappearing from sight leaving a not so sorrow spouse behind.

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:47 pm
by phuketrichard
Barang_doa_slae wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 pm Maybe I am mistaken but gibbons aren’t dangerous. Anyway I saw one crossing the road to Koh Kong once was quite amazed at the sight.
I've owned a few of them back in the 80's, they are fine until they mature at 5-7 years old then many become aggressive.
One used to ride with me on my motorcycle

There is a rehabilitation center here in phuket...https://www.gibbonproject.org/

Re: Gibbons roaming around PP

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:34 pm
by hanno
Duncan wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:30 pm
hanno wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:21 pm
Barang_doa_slae wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 pm Maybe I am mistaken but gibbons aren’t dangerous. Anyway I saw one crossing the road to Koh Kong once was quite amazed at the sight.
A hotel I worked in had a Gibbon (one of the first things I did was have it picked up and sent to the Primate Rescue Center). Anyway, this Gibbon hated females and would attack them on sight. Now, their teeth are not very big but certainly big enough to draw blood. We all thought it was a he but, once it was at the rescue center, it turned it was a she and they people their figured she was plain jealous. Interesting tidbit: Gibbons' sexual organs look similar in males and females.
How long did it take you to do a search on that? <:
That was pre-Google days so I did not know until a scientist told me.