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Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:02 am
by nerdlinger
From what I can tell to get a visa you need a letter from a registered company.

To register a company you need to have set up a bank account with paid up capital and also secured an office, amongst other things that are impractical do to without being in the country.

Is there a formal way around this catch-22? I’ve been on this board long enough to know that half of you will tell me to come in on a tourist visa and grease a few palms later, but I’d like to try to get as much done by the book as possible.


Also I notice to sponsor a work permit your company needs a ratio of 9:1 locals to foreigners - does this include company directors? Seems like there must be some formal way of handling foreign-run small businesses…

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:36 am
by Username Taken
I'm going to assume that you've never lived in Cambodia, and quite possibly never even visited. Getting anything done by the book in Cambodia can be expensive, and is not really the way that Cambodia works, whether you like it or not.

There have been countless foreigners over the years thinking that they could/would get things done 'by the book', but it always seems to end up in them losing everything and heading for the border with their tail between their legs trying to avoid the 'told you sos'. (Even those coming in to invest huge sums).

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Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:13 am
by nerdlinger
Username Taken wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:36 am I'm going to assume that you've never lived in Cambodia, and quite possibly never even visited. Getting anything done by the book in Cambodia can be expensive, and is not really the way that Cambodia works, whether you like it or not.

There have been countless foreigners over the years thinking that they could/would get things done 'by the book', but it always seems to end up in them losing everything and heading for the border with their tail between their legs trying to avoid the 'told you sos'. (Even those coming in to invest huge sums).
Yeah I don’t need the condescending crap. I’m not as naive as you think. But it makes sense to at least try not to break the law early doors as the first choice option.

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:40 am
by phuketrichard
nerdlinger wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:13 am
Username Taken wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:36 am I'm going to assume that you've never lived in Cambodia, and quite possibly never even visited. Getting anything done by the book in Cambodia can be expensive, and is not really the way that Cambodia works, whether you like it or not.

There have been countless foreigners over the years thinking that they could/would get things done 'by the book', but it always seems to end up in them losing everything and heading for the border with their tail between their legs trying to avoid the 'told you sos'. (Even those coming in to invest huge sums).
Yeah I don’t need the condescending crap. I’m not as naive as you think. But it makes sense to at least try not to break the law early doors as the first choice option.
its not crap, its valid up to date info for entering and getting a business/ordinary visa Currently if ur not employed or have someone willing to send you an employment letter

I'd love to see a response to "I'm going to assume that you've never lived in Cambodia, and quite possibly never even visite"
True or not?

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:02 am
by PSD-Kiwi
nerdlinger wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:02 am
Also I notice to sponsor a work permit your company needs a ratio of 9:1 locals to foreigners - does this include company directors? Seems like there must be some formal way of handling foreign-run small businesses…
No, the foreign employee quota doesn't apply to the owner/director, only employees.

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:37 am
by Ozinasia
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Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:50 am
by Alex
Out of curiosity and leaving the visa issue aside, do "shelf companies" exist that you can just buy off an incorporation agent, ready for use?

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:07 pm
by Ozinasia
from my experience no , not found any at least if they did they could come with baggage (debit) further a corporation is pretty much useless without a bank account and these days one must appear to open that.

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:18 pm
by nerdlinger
phuketrichard wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:40 am
nerdlinger wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:13 am
Username Taken wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:36 am I'm going to assume that you've never lived in Cambodia, and quite possibly never even visited. Getting anything done by the book in Cambodia can be expensive, and is not really the way that Cambodia works, whether you like it or not.

There have been countless foreigners over the years thinking that they could/would get things done 'by the book', but it always seems to end up in them losing everything and heading for the border with their tail between their legs trying to avoid the 'told you sos'. (Even those coming in to invest huge sums).
Yeah I don’t need the condescending crap. I’m not as naive as you think. But it makes sense to at least try not to break the law early doors as the first choice option.
its not crap, its valid up to date info for entering and getting a business/ordinary visa Currently if ur not employed or have someone willing to send you an employment letter

I'd love to see a response to "I'm going to assume that you've never lived in Cambodia, and quite possibly never even visite"
True or not?
I was referring to the completely unnecessary first two paragraphs. And yes, I have been to Cambodia, and I’ve lived and worked in 6 other countries, and I’m aware that Cambodia is a developing country, so y’all can stop smugly treating me like an idiot child.

The big irony is that the reason I explicitly mentioned wanting to find out the legal way of doing it in my opening post was because I already knew how half of you would react to the idea, so treating me like I’m being naive on the topic when I already called out what you were going to say shows a stunning lack of self-awareness on your part(s) too.

Re: Visa to start a new business catch-22

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:23 pm
by nerdlinger
Alex wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:50 am Out of curiosity and leaving the visa issue aside, do "shelf companies" exist that you can just buy off an incorporation agent, ready for use?
I have wondered about those - I’ve seen mention of them in a few places. My concern with them is how do I make sure that whoever set this company up hasn’t run up a bunch of secret debts or other liabilities against it that I’d become liable for?