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British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:44 pm
by taabarang
The director of a school in Kampong Cham paid a visit to our family this afternoon. After viewing the children's academic records and talking with us, the parents, he decided to accept them on the spot.

The school is new to me; the director explained that it is in part funded by charitable donations.from the Royal Family; furthermore he chose our daughter to greet the granddaughter of the Queen when she visits the project.

All of this background leads up to my question "how should my daughter address the Royal Granddaughter?" Are there any ceremonial requirements expected of her e.g. curtsying etc.? I thank my British colleagues in advance.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:06 pm
by hburns
A Glasgow kiss would be a traditional welcome.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:14 pm
by taabarang
More serious responses would be appreciated. My daughter is quite nervous about "doing it right" and her Khmer mom and American dad are of no help.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:14 pm
by SinnSisamouth
Oddly when prince Andrews kids great Meghan and Harry they only curtesy if she’s with Harry, because she’s a commoner.

A simple curtesy is enough. Not too low, legs in-line, head slightly bowed.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:23 pm
by TOG
Which granddaughter and what is her title?

Royal protocol is a pain in the arse, but if you do it, then do it properly.

Personally, I think they are nearly all a bunch of degenerates. The only hope is the House of Middleton.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:24 pm
by prahocalypse now
I recall from the film The Queen (the one with Helen Mirren as QEII) that when Tony Blair went to meet the Queen after being elected PM he was told that he should not show his back to the Queen and therefore had to leave the room walking backwards.


Some foreigners have made the mistake of touching the Queen. Michele Obama hugged the Queen and Paul Keating put his hand on her back. He was subsequently named 'The Lizard of Oz' by the British press.

George W even winked at the Queen.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:34 pm
by prahocalypse now
The internet says that the traditional way for a female to greet a member of the royal family is with a small curtsy.

The princess should be addressed firstly as "Your Royal Highness" and subsequently as "Ma'am".

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:35 pm
by taabarang
TOG wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:23 pm Which granddaughter and what is her title?

Royal protocol is a pain in the arse, but if you do it, then do it properly.

Personally, I think they are nearly all a bunch of degenerates. The only hope is the House of Middleton.
Sorry I have no information regarding the granddaughter and her title. I hope there is a general protocol or some short but acceptably polite way to welcome her that is not offensive. After all she is a foreigner and not a subject of The Crown.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:45 pm
by prahocalypse now
If the princess mentions her late Aunt Princess Diana's contribution to ridding the world of landmines, your daughter could impress her with her knowledge of Princess Di's stepbrother, the Phnom Pehn deathpat Adam Shand Kydd. See below:
On April 25, 2004 the body of Adam Shand Kydd, 49, the step-brother of Princess Diana, was discovered by cleaning lady Leng Sang in his $1170 per month luxury apartment in Phnom Penh’s red light district in Daun Penh. He was naked, face-down on the bed. Semen was found on his body, and he had a swollen left ankle. Prach Nhat “Autopsy Police” for Phnom Penh municipality said that "No one killed him", and that he had died after taking “many” sleeping pills. Valium strips with 94 pills missing were found in the flat, along with painkillers and kamagra, a version of Viagra. As were a half bottle of wine and a packet of Marlboro cigarettes.

The cleaner said that two days before his death, Mr Kydd had been behaving strangely. He had been throwing his clothes around his room and repeatedly slapping himself in the head. He had also complained to the owner of the apartment, Seng Nimol, about stomach pains and vomiting. He had moved to Phnom Penh earlier in April 2004 to meet friends and write fiction.

His body was taken to Calmette Hospital morgue and embalmed before being placed into a white casket and repatriated to the UK. Ambulance driver Yim Mongul said, “When I picked up the body I saw blue bruises on his arms and on his whole body. I assumed he overdosed on drugs”. Local newspapers printed photos of his dead, naked body lying face down on his bed and in the morgue. One newspaper, Light of Cambodia (Rasmei Kampuchea), published a picture of the deceased under the headline “Another Dead Foreigner”.

In July 2004, a British coroner delivered an open verdict at an inquest into Adam Shand Kidd’s death. Westminster coroner Paul Knapman said that the Cambodian authorities’ investigation had left “something to be desired”. The embalming process had made it difficult for the British authorities to test drug and alcohol levels. A pathologist said that Kydd “had suffered from high blood pressure, which had given him an enlarged heart”. He also said that he had had coronary artery disease. Dr Knapman said, "It is not clear whether this has been some form of abusive drugs, suicide, accident, or indeed natural causes." He ruled out foul play and said that there was no evidence that Kydd had taken cocaine or heroin.

Adam Shand Kydd was described in obituaries as “tall, striking and humorous, “immensely affable and a brilliant raconteur”, “a person of extraordinary talents who perhaps never quite found his place in the world”. “A voracious reader with a huge knowledge of military history - a lover of good company and conversation", Adam Shand Kydd was a man “possessed of a prodigious, driving intelligence”. He was “a gentle aesthete and a shambolic dilettante…shrewd and critical as well as omnivorous”.

Adam’s parents divorced when he was in his early teens and after a scandalous affair, his father married Diana’s mother, Frances Spencer. Adam was educated at Stowe until he was expelled for allegedly destroying a church organ with an axe. He worked in a London theatre and in 1984 his novel Happy Trails was published. Receiving mixed reviews, Happy Trails is described as a comedy “about two gay men who live peacefully in East Anglia until they are drawn into plots of religious fanaticism”. Paperback editions can be purchased for as little as $0.11 from amazon.com.

After failing to have a second novel published, Adam became depressed and drank heavily, spending time in rehab. The novel was a comedy about fringe theatre. By his own admission, he spent a lot of time staring out of windows. It is thought that he had become interested in Buddhism in his later years. He never married, but had many girlfriends in his life. It is not known how many he had during his brief stay in Phnom Penh or if any of the women whom he took back to his luxury Phsar Thmei II apartment had any inkling that they were being boned by the future King of England’s step-uncle.

Re: British protocol for greeting queen's granddaughter

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:48 pm
by Felgerkarb
Ave, Imperatrix, morituri te salutant.

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