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Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:09 pm
by Josh_76
Looking for solid advice or a good immigration lawyer.

After having visited the KOW since 2003 and getting serious from early 2014 on, I wish to relocate there next August. I will be 57 then. I don't have a Khmer partner nor fathered a Khmer citizen.

Initially, I wanted to apply for a retirement visa but have since discarded that idea and want to leave that option until I'm in my mid-60's, as once you go that route it could never be changed and any worldwide income from work would put you in violation.

There is also a possibility that the age limit may be have been raised by next year. Another point of concern is that the DOI is not following the Thai 'money in the bank and you're good to stay' option and may insist on a pension received from outside Cambodia month after month. I do have significant investments with two financial institutions in Cambodia that produce plenty of interest to live on very comfortably but I will never receive a pension from my home country or any other. I would find it very weird that they would insist on a method that brings in no tax revenue over one that does but anything is possible, as we know, and if they ever did, I'd be toast, which is a position I'd really not like to find myself in.

So, what options do I have left?

* Someone suggested being a long term volunteer. Is it really possible to get a B-class visa that way when you are not a highly specialized NGO'er?
* I could try to find a job of course during the 6 month EG visa but as my intended place of residence is Kampot, where I'm friends with a local family and where my (rented out) house is, I doubt there would be a lot of options. I really don't want to live in PP.
* I could ask my local friend & business partner to hire me but I'd hate to have to ask for such a big favor.
* I could open a business, I guess.


Thanks.

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:48 pm
by PSD-Kiwi
Josh_76 wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:09 pm
So, what options do I have left?

* Someone suggested being a long term volunteer. Is it really possible to get a B-class visa that way when you are not a highly specialized NGO'er?

No chance.

The B-type visa is now limited to certain Organisations, the UN being one.

Employees with a registered INGO that have a MoI with the MoFAIC are now on C-type Visas.

* I could try to find a job of course during the 6 month EG visa but as my intended place of residence is Kampot, where I'm friends with a local family and where my (rented out) house is, I doubt there would be a lot of options. I really don't want to live in PP.


* I could ask my local friend & business partner to hire me but I'd hate to have to ask for such a big favor.

This would involve them applying for a Foreign Employee Quota for you, and having to pay tax on your "salary". Doable, but a hindrance for them, maybe you could offer to pay your own tax.


* I could open a business, I guess.

You'd just be throwing money away.

Thanks.
What is actually stopping you from getting the ER (Retirement) EOS if you don't plan on working? Your worldwide income will not put you in violation, as long as you are not working and receiving an income in Cambodia.

Currently you are eligible to obtain without the need to provide any supporting documentation.

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:54 pm
by Duncan
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:48 pm
Josh_76 wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:09 pm
So, what options do I have left?

* Someone suggested being a long term volunteer. Is it really possible to get a B-class visa that way when you are not a highly specialized NGO'er?

No chance.

The B-type visa is now limited to certain Organisations, the UN being one.

Employees with a registered INGO that have a MoI with the MoFAIC are now on C-type Visas.

* I could try to find a job of course during the 6 month EG visa but as my intended place of residence is Kampot, where I'm friends with a local family and where my (rented out) house is, I doubt there would be a lot of options. I really don't want to live in PP.


* I could ask my local friend & business partner to hire me but I'd hate to have to ask for such a big favor.

This would involve them applying for a Foreign Employee Quota for you, and having to pay tax on your "salary". Doable, but a hindrance for them, maybe you could offer to pay your own tax.


* I could open a business, I guess.

You'd just be throwing money away.

Thanks.
What is actually stopping you from getting the ER (Retirement) EOS if you don't plan on working? Your worldwide income will not put you in violation, as long as you are not working and receiving an income in Cambodia.

Currently you are eligible to obtain without the need to provide any supporting documentation.
Just renewed mine,,,,,, No docs if you are over 60

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:04 pm
by PSD-Kiwi
55+ No supporting documentation required.

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:02 pm
by Josh_76
Like I wrote, I won't arrive before August of next year. I have to factor in that retirement eligibility rules might change.

An old timer who works for an NGO had suggested volunteering to me but when I looked I also arrived at the "no chance for a B-class visa" conclusion.

I did consider paying the tax incurred to the business - how much could it be on a low salary after all - so that one remains a possibility, however not a preferred one.

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:43 pm
by cannabistourist
I am sorry but I feel so weird that some people even think about strategy to stay in Cambodia when it's so easy to stay here without thinking. Even working without work permit or tourist visa. So just relax, it's not USA or shit EU !

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:46 pm
by Anchor Moy
Josh_76 wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:02 pm Like I wrote, I won't arrive before August of next year. I have to factor in that retirement eligibility rules might change.
Lol. Cambodia is in a state of flux, so even more unpredictable than usual. Even the fortune-tellers can't tell you what the situation in Cambodia will be more than a year from now. Many things could have changed by then. Your Khmer friends may have sold their farm to the Chinese, foreign NGOs may have visa problems etc.
I would wait a bit before planning what sort of visa you will need or be qualified for. The visa situation is constantly evolving.

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:51 pm
by Username Taken
Was just going to same the same as ^^^

August next year is 14 months away. The visa rules could change umpteen times between now and then.

Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 pm
by StroppyChops
Anchor Moy wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:46 pm Lol. Cambodia is in a state of flux, so even more unpredictable than usual.
There's a market opportunity here.

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Re: Long Term Visa Questions

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:27 pm
by Clutch Cargo
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Username Taken wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:51 pm
August next year is 14 months away.
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