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Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:19 pm
by RedJohny
Hello,
I moved to Phnom Penh two weeks ago and I struggle a bit to understand the local girls and "dating market". I lived in Bangkok for 2 years and it was quite easy to find a normal girl (for relationship or friendship) on Tinder or approach a girl on the street. But in Cambodia all of my matches on Tinder seems to be hookers or fake profiles. I can see many cute girls on the street or in the mall, but they do not seem interested in a conversation.
What is your experience and the best way to find a decent girl in Phnom Penh for a relationship (or even friendship) for a European guy in late 20's? (I am not interested in hookers or bar girls)
Thank's for any honest advise, please no trolling.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:33 pm
by hunter8
Try Badoo, it has good girls, but not necessarily the prettiest. Dating a good girl here is easy if you don’t mind that you don’t get to sleep with her before marriage lol.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:35 pm
by stupid-barang
I have yet to find a 'good girl' that won't respond if you speak Khmer. They most likely seem indifferent because they don't understand english.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:37 pm
by armchairlawyer
Methinks OP will have to learn to speak Khmer, even then I imagine most Khmer girls would not entertain the notion of "dating" a barang.
It's interesting that he was able to get it for free in Bangkok without speaking Thai (assuming he doesn't).

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:50 pm
by Kammekor
^those

Khmer girls either don’t speak English or are shy to do so. Learning Khmer will change the odds in your favor.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm
by RedJohny
There are girls in Bangkok in their 20's that are educated and do not like behavior and mindset of Thai guys. So as long as you are not a short-time visitor, treat them with respect, it is just question of time to find a decent girl, who is smart, makes her own money and speaks English.
What do you think is the reason, why Khmer girls are not so much into Barangs?

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:06 pm
by IraHayes
RedJohny wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm it is just question of time to find a decent girl, who is smart, makes her own money and speaks English.
Seems OP inadvertently answered his own question.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:22 pm
by taabarang
"Seems OP inadvertently answered his own question."

Sorry, but "good girl" posts are the exclusive domain of a poster called explorer.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:08 pm
by armchairlawyer
RedJohny wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 pm There are girls in Bangkok in their 20's that are educated and do not like behavior and mindset of Thai guys. So as long as you are not a short-time visitor, treat them with respect, it is just question of time to find a decent girl, who is smart, makes her own money and speaks English.
What do you think is the reason, why Khmer girls are not so much into Barangs?
Interesting. Just goes to show how more developed education and the middle class is in Thailand (well, Bangkok).
Methinks you may have to temper your resistance to bar girls. They can usually be relied upon to dislike the attitude of Khmer men, and they make their own money and speak English. Or go for a hallfway house, look at the waitresses in the riverside restaurants.

Re: Good girls in Phnom Penh

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:32 pm
by clutchcargo
RedJohny wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:19 pm Hello,
I moved to Phnom Penh two weeks ago and I struggle a bit to understand the local girls and "dating market". I lived in Bangkok for 2 years and it was quite easy to find a normal girl (for relationship or friendship) on Tinder or approach a girl on the street. But in Cambodia all of my matches on Tinder seems to be hookers or fake profiles. I can see many cute girls on the street or in the mall, but they do not seem interested in a conversation.
What is your experience and the best way to find a decent girl in Phnom Penh for a relationship (or even friendship) for a European guy in late 20's? (I am not interested in hookers or bar girls)
Thank's for any honest advise, please no trolling.
My insights are largely anecdotal from my discussions with Mrs Cargo, her sisters and friend's experiences. Caveat: these insights may be generalising and there are always exceptions. Apologies if I'm repeating some of the earlier members comments.

1. 'good girls' in Cambodia generally do not date in a 'western' sense aka one on one. Dating khmer style involves having the family present or as a group. No boom boom till marriage. Certainly still the case in the province albeit some city girls are becoming more free spirited and independent.

2. it is true that some khmer girls are open to a relationship with a foreigner coz khmer guy's reputation are not always the best. Many stories of marriages, the girl gets pregnant and the husband pisses off or cheats on his wife.

3. language is an issue as others have stated. Many girls are very shy to foreigners..

4. whilst some girls maybe open to a foreigner relationship they are at the same time concerned about their associated reputation ie one of coming here to have a good time and play with a girl and then dump her and go back to their home country. Traditional viewpoint.

5. many are not interested in a 'boyfriend' in a western sense. They want a husband. Again, they fear that a guy will have a girlfriend, have fun with her, get bored and then dump her. They are worried about their long term future, security and reputation.

6. they are concerned about the foreigner's longevity in Cambodia. Many are here temporarily or through circumstance return to their home country. Younger guys often find it difficult to make a decent living here and they must have a work permit to stay any decent amount of time. Older financially independent retirees don't have that issue with visas but some khmer girls are concerned about the age gap..especially as after marry, most want to have kids.

7. not all girls are necessarily open to marrying a foreigner and migrating to their husband's home country. Family ties are strong and I've found that Thais and Cambodians are lees inclined to do so than say, filipinas. Again generalising and if the girl is from a very poor family $$$ will be the key motivator.

8. quite a few of Mrs Cargo's friends have asked her: does she know any 'nice' younger barangs who are serious about a relationship/marriage and wanting a family? TBH most younger barang guys I know are here for fun and not really ready to settle down. Again, in general but you can see the conundrum..

As to suggestions:

1. one needs to demonstrate they are here for the long term and serious about their intentions.

2. learn the language if you can

3. avoid the bars and bringing hookers home to your apartment.. the the tom tom drums will soon let any prospective 'good girls' know. Reputation is everything here imo.

4. look for opportunities via your work and establish a good rapport with the local community where you live and I reckon opportunities will easily come your way..