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China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:38 am
by phuketrichard
with most of the world locked down and having to devote much of its time,energy and $$ to the pandemic
China pushes forward towards its global plan ;-(
To project strength at home and exploit an unprecedented security vacuum caused by the Covid-19 pandemic, China is doubling down on its expansive claims to the contested South China Sea.

China’s State Council, the country’s chief administrative authority, announced in recent days the establishment of two new administrative districts in the South China Sea.

Chinese state media dubbed the little noticed distinction as a “major administrative move”, one that could put Beijing on a new collision course with rival claimants in the maritime area.

....In that direction, Beijing introduced on April 18 the Xisha and Nansha districts under the aegis of Sansha City, itself a new prefecture-level unity first established in 2012 on the Woody (Yongxing) Island in the sea’s Paracel island chain that China contests with Vietnam.

Host to 1,800 permanent residents, Sansha covers around two million square kilometers of contested waters, rich maritime resources and a host of low-tide elevations, atolls, islets, rocks and artificial islands.
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https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/china-lay ... d7ff190aa4

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:07 am
by Clemen
Related:
"China Sends Aircraft Carrier near Japan, Taiwan as US Navy Struggles with Coronavirus"
"YOKOSUKA NAVAL BASE, Japan -- Japan and Taiwan kept watch on the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning and its strike group as they steamed through the Miyako Strait and past Taiwan over the weekend, according to the Japanese Ministry of Defense and published reports Monday."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... virus.html

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:15 am
by CEOCambodiaNews
Two previous threads with news and discussion on the claims in the South China Sea:
(Oldest first)
the-rest-the-world/china-land-reclamati ... t5133.html
the-rest-the-world/philippines-wins-sou ... t9703.html

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:29 am
by SternAAlbifrons
What's new?
This has been happening for years now
with zero effective challenge.

Fact is, the West has totally abrogated it's power in East Asia and the western Pacific.
We have allowed ourselves to be castrated by those previous champions of free trade and globalism.
- who have now crawled back into a self-centred isolationist hole crying "victim victim", and doing nothing more than issuing empty threats.

FFS, we can't even put together a simple billion flocking face masks - still!

So - where do we go from here? (realistically and intelligently)

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:41 am
by fazur
china and taiwan both claim area within 9 dash line, no new claims deliberate misleading

us cannot condemn china too strongly bcoz taiwan also claims the same area and is a allied

conflicts between claims and unclos exclusive economic zone 200 miles are the real issue

china should get economic zone 200 miles, nothing more

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:11 am
by J21H21
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:29 am What's new?
This has been happening for years now
with zero effective challenge.

Fact is, the West has totally abrogated it's power in East Asia and the western Pacific.
We have allowed ourselves to be castrated by those previous champions of free trade and globalism.
- who have now crawled back into a self-centred isolationist hole crying "victim victim", and doing nothing more than issuing empty threats.

FFS, we can't even put together a simple billion flocking face masks - still!

So - where do we go from here? (realistically and intelligently)

Your analysis is brimming with provable facts, demonstrates a profoundly deep understanding of international maritime law, and highlights your ability to conflate irrelevant facts to support a weak thesis. Thank you sir. May we have another? 8)

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:27 am
by SternAAlbifrons
This is a discussion forum J-whatever
and, with due respect, your post contains nothing except a sarcastic slag-off
If you don't agree with my view - what is your counter-argument?

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:08 pm
by Duncan
When the first Americans landed on the moon and planted the USA flag, how much land did they claim ?
Spoiler:
Ok, they forgot, better go back and do it.

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:27 pm
by hunter8
phuketrichard wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:38 am with most of the world locked down and having to devote much of its time,energy and $$ to the pandemic
China pushes forward towards its global plan ;-(
Like i said before, China tricked the world into believing that this flu is something more serious. They know it’s just a flu, they know the infections rate is a hundred times higher bringing the mortality rate down to that of a flu. While the whole world is freaking out and looking for ways to save face hesitating to admit they have been taken for a ride, China is expanding influence. War is deception, Chinese have practiced it longer than any living nation.

Re: China lays ever larger claim to South China Sea

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:30 pm
by John Bingham
hunter8 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:27 pm They know it’s just a flu, they know the infections rate is a hundred times higher bringing the mortality rate down to that of a flu.
I don't understand what you are trying to say there, can you expand on that please?