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From: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sex- ... -rll5gz2jp

Sex lesson provider urges children to become ‘activists’Charity in row with parent also claims that virginity doesn’t exist

A sex education provider which argues that there is no such thing as virginity is encouraging pupils to become activists of the future, documents reveal.
The School of Sexuality Education earns most of its income by providing relationship and sex education lessons to primary and secondary schools.
The London-based charity is in a legal dispute with Clare Page, a parent who became concerned over the allegedly “contentious theories being taught as fact” in a lesson the organisation gave to her teenage daughter.
The group has refused to tell Page who taught her daughter or what the lesson entailed, saying that to reveal such commercially sensitive information would harm its business.
Government guidance says that parents should be able to see all teaching materials, even when the lessons are provided by third parties.
Dolly Padalia, chief executive of the organisation, has denied that the group’s lessons on sex, gender and identity promote any partisan or political views. However, examples of SSE teaching materials seen by The Times, encourage youngsters to become “activists”.
It states: “Using what you have seen, read and thought about so far, think about what you and your communities could do to celebrate sex-positivity and sexual diversity. You could even chat about this with friends over Snapchat/FaceTime to try to make some activist plans for the future!”
Other SSE material encourages children to continue classroom conversations about sex on to private video calls and online platforms, such as TikTok, Snapchat and Facetime.
“Why not try turning all of your points so far into a quickfire asexuality explainer video for Tiktok?” suggests one activity.
“Arrange a Zoom/Facetime/Snapchat with a group of friends and discuss what you would like to be included in your sex and relationships education classes,” says another.
The charity claims that the worksheets were developed as an extra resource during lockdown and do not form part of its curriculum.
At a tribunal hearing this week, Padalia denied there was a safeguarding risk that these conversations could be recorded, leaked and circulated beyond a child’s control. She said: “Chances are, in terms of how it’s been used in our experience, by teachers and parents, this is usually done at home or online with a peer and so not recorded.”
In another worksheet it is stated that virginity does not exist. “The idea of virginity is made up by society. It is not fixed in any biological facts. The writer and activist Dr Hanne Blank asserts ‘virginity does not exist’.
“In recent years, thanks to researchers and activists, we as a society have started to correct our damaging views on virginity and sex, but we still have some way to go.”
The exercise then invites pupils to discuss whether “virginity is a damaging social construct”.
Tanya Carter, from the campaign group Safe Schools Alliance, said: “Some people quite sensibly take the view that you don’t want this big focus on virginity, with children thinking it’s something they have to lose. But discussing virginity in school can also be used to say that it is quite alright to be having sex under-age.
“What we’d like to see in schools is much more concentration on the age of consent and how it’s for their benefit. When you are dealing with children, you want to concentrate much more on the facts.”
Lucy Marsh, a spokesman for the Family Education Trust, said: “Virginity is not a social construct. It is something to be cherished. Schools should not be allowing these third-party providers to come in and promote things like this to children.”
SSE has removed biographies of the team who run the school workshops from its website after some parents objected to their links with the adult sex industry.
Workshop facilitators have included Almaz Ohene, a freelance journalist who writes erotic fiction for adults, and Nadia Deen, a sex educator who is “working on a line of sex toys, set to revolutionise your toy drawer for ever”. Deen’s previous roles include managing mail orders for a sex shop in east London.

Another facilitator, Emma Chan, is a doctor who blogs about sex toys and masturbation. Their personal websites, which contained links to pornography and other sexually explicit adult content, have been removed from the SSE website.
• Head teachers of prestigious schools held a conference to discuss trans children in schools and their legal obligations, as part of a wider discussion on diversity.
HMC, whose 250 members include Eton, Harrow and Roedean, were addressed by Bobbi Pickard, chief executive of Trans in the City. She told them about the “gifts that trans people bring to society” and told schools how they could “celebrate trans diversity without prejudice or fear” to make schools places where everyone can flourish.
She urged heads to be more supportive, denied that children were being pressured into taking puberty-blocking drugs and said that in the tiny minority of cases when children were given drugs, it gave them space and time to think. Pickard, a trans woman, said she had experienced menopause, misogyny, mansplaining and harassment.
Heads were also given advice by a leading barrister, Dan Squires KC, about the legal framework governing trans children in schools, whether schools were legally required to treat children as the gender in which they identified and the law around the exclusion and admissions of trans children from single-sex schools.
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Being a parent myself, of an eleven years' old, I can tell you education about sex is as difficult as it was when I were a kid myself and my parents struggled.
I thought it would be a breeze for me, but society has changed, so the questions I get are not the ones I asked when I were young.
Guess this is a problem generations have faced before me. I'm not overly concerned, as my parents back in the days facing me and my questions.
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Just in case anyone is still confused about gender, here's a pretty straight forward clarification.

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Username Taken wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 4:05 am Just in case anyone is still confused about gender, here's a pretty straight forward clarification.

Yes, but then we are told that it is actually more complicated.
Chromosomes

Most think chromosomes hold the key to biological sex, but that’s not always the case. Typically, those with two X chromosomes are considered biologically female and those with one X and one Y chromosome are considered biologically male. However, a DSD known as Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS) leads some to have an X and Y chromosome, but physically appear to be girls. Without genetic testing, babies with AIS are often assigned female sex at birth and are raised as girls. They may not realize they are not biologically female until they hit puberty and don’t begin to menstruate.

Genitalia

The presence or lack of a penis is often thought of as another clear indicator of biological sex, but that’s not a decisive way to divide the sexes either. Some individuals are born with ambiguous genitalia and are not clearly male or female in genital appearance at birth. In fact, research indicates that about 2% of the population is born with these ambiguous traits. Those born with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), for example, are chromosomally female but may have very masculinized genitalia. Despite the ambiguity, biological sex is often assigned to these individuals within a few days of birth.

Clinical psychogist, Tiger Devore, an outspoken advocate for individuals with DSDs who was born with ambiguous genitalia, describes the process that occurs at the birth of a child with ambiguous genitals, “People create radio silence and they wait for the doctors to come up with some kind of decision about this. The doctors are looking at their chromosomes, their gonads, how their tissues respond to various kinds of hormonal influences and seeing what they think will happen if they try to give this kid a male assignment or female assignment, and that can be a messy process.”

When genitalia is ambiguous, doctors try to determine biological sex by examining many indicators. In addition to chromosomes, doctors will examine if the baby has ovaries or testes, and whether or not they have a womb. Doctors also look at the hormones being produced and try to guess how the baby’s genitals will develop. To complicate the process, the results from each of these tests may not be clearly male or female but could fall somewhere in between. A baby may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Rather than take a “wait and see” approach, doctors often still feel compelled to choose one sex for the baby.
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"virginity is a [...] social construct”

I see this phrase used a lot. And often incorrectly. Something being a social construct does not mean that it doesn't exist.
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Big Daikon wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 8:18 am "virginity is a [...] social construct”

I see this phrase used a lot. And often incorrectly. Something being a social construct does not mean that it doesn't exist.
I don't advocate any of the nonsense in the article, but the point of labelling something a social construct is not to say that it doesn't exist, it's to say that it's in our power to change, unlike the laws of science.
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siliconlife wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 8:24 am
Big Daikon wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 8:18 am "virginity is a [...] social construct”

I see this phrase used a lot. And often incorrectly. Something being a social construct does not mean that it doesn't exist.
I don't advocate any of the nonsense in the article, but the point of labelling something a social construct is not to say that it doesn't exist, it's to say that it's in our power to change, unlike the laws of science.
I see your point, but respectfully disagree. Often the goal is to demonstrate something's non-existence.

From the article:
The writer and activist Dr Hanne Blank asserts ‘virginity does not exist’.
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Social constructs are what binds a society together.

For example, in Japan, people strictly believe in following rules and the law. It’s safe at night, it’s safe to leave your valuables unattended in public.

In the US, such belief is considered bad. Unattended valuables will be gone, and every night, there’s always shootings. Muggings aren’t even reported anymore on the news.

Social constructs need to be brought back.

Just my opinion, of course.
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newkidontheblock wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 5:35 pm Social constructs are what binds a society together.

For example, in Japan, people strictly believe in following rules and the law. It’s safe at night, it’s safe to leave your valuables unattended in public.

In the US, such belief is considered bad. Unattended valuables will be gone, and every night, there’s always shootings. Muggings aren’t even reported anymore on the news.

Social constructs need to be brought back.

Just my opinion, of course.
Yeah, and they used to send little kids down the coal mines or out begging, and you could legally murder your wife if she made you jealous...

If you are missing these type of social constructs NKOTB, then you should move to a more enlightened country, like Cambodia for example.
(Not sure what this has got to do with virginity, but carry on.)
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you could legally murder your wife if she made you jealous...
Mixed feelings, of course.

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