atst wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:13 am clean and sustainable energy is a good thing, renewable energy is supposed to be using and replanting forest not raping what forest are available. What I got from this movie is once again big business have taken a good idea fucked it up for thier quick buck.

IraHayes wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:20 am

atst wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:13 am clean and sustainable energy is a good thing, renewable energy is supposed to be using and replanting forest not raping what forest are available. What I got from this movie is once again big business have taken a good idea fucked it up for thier quick buck.

Yes.. big business got involved... but it was all about the money for them. The problem is... there is no clean and sustainable energy.. it’s all been a myth pushed by “big businesses”...

The only solution is a very simple one. We need to consume less.

“We all want to feel good about something like the electric car, but in the back of your head somewhere you’ve thought, ’Yeah, but where is the electricity coming from? And it’s like, ‘I don’t want to think about that, I’m glad we have electric cars,’” Moore said. “I’ve passed by the windmill farms, and oh it’s so beautiful to see them going, and don’t tell me that we’ve gone too far now and it isn’t going to save us … Well, my feeling is just hit me with everything. I’m like let’s just deal with it now, all at once.”

It’s part of the reason why they had to make it independently. Gibbs said he tried for years to get an environmental group on board to help offset the costs, only to be turned down at every door. He was further disheartened when, in the film, he approaches people like Jones, McKibben and a local Sierra Club leader, and asks them about their stance on biofuel and biomass. Biomass, like wood and garbage, can be used to produce heat and is considered a renewable source of energy. It can also be converted to gas or liquid biofuels that can be burned for energy.

He finds every one ill-prepared to comment on their stance about the biomass process, which the documentary says requires cutting down enormous numbers of trees to produce the woodchips that are converted into energy. Neither Jones nor McKibben responded to request for comment from The Associated Press.

“I like so many people in the film and I’m one of those people who wanted to believe all of these years that that was the right path,” Moore said. ”(But) I refuse to let us die out. I refuse to let this planet die.”

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:11 pm I for one, still believe mankind has time, IF enough of us can wake up the doubting Thomas's