Jimmy Savile : A British horror story
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Re: Jimmy Savile : A British horror story
That article is four years old. Are you trying to go off topic to distract attention from your royals and establishment?
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What was the topic ?
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The Royals, the Pakis, the show business, what else ?
It seems that the levels are a bit high on various segments of the population. I also vaguely remember also something horrendous & large scale in an Irish institution / boarding school, with religious creds, for decades, if i'm not mistaken.
These things can unfold once communication is established between victims and law.
Is there something in particular in the air with UK, for having such revelations so late ? I can think of various factors, but i wouldn't know where to start, except religion, as too often a good thread to follow.
It seems that the levels are a bit high on various segments of the population. I also vaguely remember also something horrendous & large scale in an Irish institution / boarding school, with religious creds, for decades, if i'm not mistaken.
These things can unfold once communication is established between victims and law.
Is there something in particular in the air with UK, for having such revelations so late ? I can think of various factors, but i wouldn't know where to start, except religion, as too often a good thread to follow.
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There were plenty of Irish institutions run by Roman Catholic orders which were documented in child abuse scandals. However I believe you are referring to the Kincora Boy's Home, which is in Ireland but the part administered by the UK. It was covered up for decades by the Loyalists such as housemaster William McGrath, prominent Presbyterians politicians like Ian Paisley, the RUC and Westminster.Ghostwriter wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:07 pm I also vaguely remember also something horrendous & large scale in an Irish institution / boarding school, with religious creds, for decades, if i'm not mistaken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys%27_HomeUntil 2015, there had been no court hearing about the alleged cover-up with British state involvement, a cover-up that was alleged by victims to have lasted decades. An Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in England and Wales was being set up at the time following revelations of widespread abuse in the aftermath of the Jimmy Savile revelations. However, the government intended to keep Kincora out of this process and within the remit of the HIA inquiry only. The Northern Ireland victims wanted a similar inquiry into their case, with fuller powers to compel witnesses to testify, and require the security service to provide documents, then available to the HIA. On 17 February 2015 the High Court in Northern Ireland listed a full judicial review into the decision to keep Kincora out of the wider inquiry, which was heard in the first week of June 2015.
Louis Mountbatten was said to be a visitor there. He was the last Viceroy of India and a favorite uncle of Prince Charles. FBI files from the 1940s only revealed in 2019 paint him as a degenerate and pedophile:
On 20 August 2019, files became public showing that the FBI knew in the 1940s that Mountbatten was an alleged homosexual and a pedophile. The FBI file on Mountbatten, begun after he took on the role of Supreme Allied Commander in Southeast Asia in 1944, describes Mountbatten and his wife Edwina as "persons of extremely low morals", and contains a claim by American author Elizabeth, Baroness Decies, that Mountbatten was known to be a homosexual and had "a perversion for young boys". Norman Nield, Mountbatten's driver from 1942 to 1943, told the tabloid New Zealand Truth that he transported young boys aged 8 to 12 who had been procured for the Admiral to Mountbatten's official residence and was paid to keep quiet. Robin Bryans had also claimed to the Irish magazine Now that Mountbatten and Anthony Blunt, along with others, were part of a ring that engaged in homosexual orgies and procured boys in their first year at public schools such as the Portora Royal School in Enniskillen. Former residents of the Kincora Boys' Home in Belfast have asserted that they were trafficked to Mountbatten at Classiebawn Castle his residence in Mullaghmore, County Sligo.
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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... transcriptThe papers from a 2009 police quiz were released last week following a seven-month battle by the Daily Star Sunday.
But the 26 pages - which exposed the evil pervert as a bully and a liar - came with 96 redactions (crossings out).
Today we can reveal the documents had been vetted by Buckingham Palace - and that the serial sex attacker's royal connections were removed.
One reference Savile made about a cousin of the Queen was included in an internal police report released in January.
But on Tuesday, when Surrey Police published the interview transcripts, there was no mention of her.
Other references to royalty were also seemingly erased - and during our fight to obtain the records, police let slip Buckingham Palace's involvement.
Tony Smith, the force's information access manager, made the reference as he explained why it was taking so long to release the documents.
He told us that, as well as going to a senior police chief outside the force, the papers had gone "to Buckingham Palace to consider...because they are mentioned in it".
There is no mention of Buckingham Palace or anyone from the royal family in the edited scripts.
And Savile - given an OBE by the Queen in 1972, followed by a knighthood in 1990 - was someone who liked to name-drop his royal connections.
The presenter, who died in 2011 aged 84, two years after Surrey's bungled probe into sex abuse claims, often boasted of his friendship with Prince Charles. He was also a confidant of Princess Diana and claimed to have helped the Duchess of York as her marriage to Prince Andrew fell apart.
Crucially, in his 1974 autobiography Savile boasted of his friendship with the same cousin of the Queen he mentioned in the 2009 police interview.
Under caution, he told officers the first time he visited a Surrey school where he was said to have abused girls was with Princess Alexandra for a garden party.
If detectives had investigated that reference by looking at his memoirs they would have discovered he was someone who preyed on vulnerable young girls.
He wrote: "Princess Alex is a patron of a hostel for girls in care. At this place I'm a cross between a term-time boyfriend and a fixer of special trips out." The 76-year-old widow of Sir Angus Ogilvy is the Duke of Kent's sister and a granddaughter of King George V.
Our investigations suggest Savile's mentions of the princess are among ten lines of blacked-out text from pages five to six of the transcripts.
The revelation is likely to spark further criticism of Surrey Police's 29-month Savile investigation which resulted in a prolific paedophile never facing justice.
But it also raises questions as to whether the force took out the reference to Princess Alexandra to avoid further embarrassment or whether the royals insisted it be excluded.
We have been told that 19 of 32 redactions made to Savile's answers were on the grounds they contained "personal information".
One answer given by Savile had around ten lines of text blacked out for that reason.
The other 13 redactions were made because they contained information sensitive to criminal investigations.
And 64 redactions were made to comments or questions from the two female detectives who quizzed Savile over allegations from three women.
Surrey Police has said its decision to release the edited papers was made "following extensive consultation which included speaking to the victims" and the Association of Chief Police Officers. It made no mention of consulting Buckingham Palace.
The Daily Star Sunday has asked the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) to investigate the redactions and consider the arguments any outside bodies made.
As we revealed in May, Government papers showing links between Savile and PrinceCharles, 64, were redacted.
An extract from the files - relating to Margaret Thatcher's dealings with Savile - was blacked out by the Cabinet Office to hide his claim that Charles had agreed to be a patron of one of his charities. It was reinstated after an appeal by the Daily Star Sunday.
A Palace spokesman said: "We would not comment on police or Freedom of Information matters."
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The Savile debacle is proof positive that something has been covered up for many, many years. Saviles connections with a royal family riddled with perversion & paedophilia are not coincidental in my opinion. What is being covered up I can only guess at. But given the revelations about Savile & those links, I'm not findng it that hard to put two & two together.
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Ok so no pizza parlor here, but still something beyond coincidence then.
The fact that it's harder to escape from institutions then from an island doesn't make it more comfortable to imagine.
There was a bit with Ricky Gervais hosting him on a show, i better understand his joke's surroundings about Epstein at the Oscars, he could not have missed this one, duty first.
How weird that royalty, religion, complacent silence and cover-ups are part of the atmosphere as much as punks, avant-garde, high quality humor and revered excentricity.
One would assume listening at all this UK 60's 70's 80's music that society members were encouraged to talk it out, what a contrast.
I guess Rotten wasn't, after all.
As a kid growing up with Monty Pythons, Benny Hill and The Avengers beetween others, (all translated in Frog, a semi-horror), i was shocked when i heard about all these cases. Freedom of speech, and great attention to extravagant subjects were part of the English deal in my mind.
The fact that it's harder to escape from institutions then from an island doesn't make it more comfortable to imagine.
There was a bit with Ricky Gervais hosting him on a show, i better understand his joke's surroundings about Epstein at the Oscars, he could not have missed this one, duty first.
How weird that royalty, religion, complacent silence and cover-ups are part of the atmosphere as much as punks, avant-garde, high quality humor and revered excentricity.
One would assume listening at all this UK 60's 70's 80's music that society members were encouraged to talk it out, what a contrast.
I guess Rotten wasn't, after all.
As a kid growing up with Monty Pythons, Benny Hill and The Avengers beetween others, (all translated in Frog, a semi-horror), i was shocked when i heard about all these cases. Freedom of speech, and great attention to extravagant subjects were part of the English deal in my mind.
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Tory Asian Muslim Pedos or something like that? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ing-boy-15
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Re: Jimmy Savile : A British horror story
We had 'Allo! 'Allo! translated.Ghostwriter wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:57 pm As a kid growing up with Monty Pythons, Benny Hill and The Avengers beetween others, (all translated in Frog, a semi-horror)...
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