British Drug User Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh, Cambodia; Dean William McWilliams Hospitalized

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Re: RE: Re: British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Heroin Overdose in Phnom Penh and Dean William McWilliams

Post by LTO » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:43 pm

General Mackevili wrote:Seems you want to just provide a random article which says he was acquitted, yet you condemn us for providing another random article that says merely says he was charged.
You have access to an article that says he was acquitted? Was it posted here already? (Maybe I missed it.) if not, please post it, or the details of it. Name of the publication, date, and the text or details of the article. Unless there is some reasonable question about the veracity of the article, that should be mire than enough to revise this thread in order to clear this man's name.
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Re: British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Heroin Overdose in Phnom Penh and Dean William McWilliams Hospital

Post by phuketrichard » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:51 pm

Username Taken wrote:@phuketrichard,
It is expected that the body of Mr Hale will be returned home at the weekend.

His mother Teresa Temple said on Tuesday night that he had suffered a heart attack after taking drugs.

She told the BBC: "I know that it was morphine tablets that he had taken and they caused a heart attack.
Source: http://www.irishnews.com/news/2016/07/0 ... ia-594593/
ok;read the quote but how does she know what he took or died of 6,000 miles away? Was he taking morphine pills before ( they are usually Prescribed for pain, my mom was on them for cancer) is she an MD and had access to the autopsy files? Was there an autopsy?

sorry but :stir:
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by Username Taken » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:33 pm

His mother accepts it, but you can't. Why is that?
What if his mother was an MD? , what if his mother had access to the autopsy files? , what if there was an autopsy? You would still find something to :stir:
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by LTO » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:51 pm

She is not a doctor.

My guess is that there was no autopsy, or at least not a proper one by western standards. That the Cambodian cops, if they gave any explanation at all, took a guess at what they think it is, perhaps based on circumstantial evidence, or maybe on the hospital report. And/or that the Cambodian cops and/or somebody close to him with some direct or semi-direct knowledge, such as his compatriot, said that he had taken morphine or pills, and that she doesn't find this outside the realm of possibility for him. Just a guess.

Though this does seem to contradict the hospital's supposed claim reported earlier in this thread that they did not find opiates in his system.
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by John Bingham » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:31 am

I'd assume that the dead guy's cousin told his bereaved aunt what they had been taking that night that left one of them dead and the other in an ICU. Otherwise she wouldn't make such a sure statement.
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by phuketrichard » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:59 am

John Bingham wrote:I'd assume that the dead guy's cousin told his bereaved aunt what they had been taking that night that left one of them dead and the other in an ICU. Otherwise she wouldn't make such a sure statement.


for a bunch of couch surfing people, we sure do assume a hell of a lot here. :beer3:

would u tell the mom of ur cousin that her son took morphine tablets to have fun?? Hmmmm no sugar coating here :stir:
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by Username Taken » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:34 am

^^ Read the link Airlines posted above. His mother was well aware of his habits.
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by John Bingham » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:50 am

phuketrichard wrote:
John Bingham wrote:I'd assume that the dead guy's cousin told his bereaved aunt what they had been taking that night that left one of them dead and the other in an ICU. Otherwise she wouldn't make such a sure statement.


for a bunch of couch surfing people, we sure do assume a hell of a lot here. :beer3:

would u tell the mom of ur cousin that her son took morphine tablets to have fun?? Hmmmm no sugar coating here :stir:
Most people would tell the truth if someone had died. It makes a lot more sense than your ridiculous assertion that he was taking morphine for pain. Yeah, sure - that explains why one person died and the other was hospitalized at the same time.
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by LTO » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:34 am

Username Taken wrote:^^ Read the link Airlines posted above. His mother was well aware of his habits.
And to be fair it also said, "Last year he was acquitted of drugs possession with intent to supply and possessing criminal property."
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