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AndyKK wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:09 am Okay this has been going on a long time and don't seem to be stopped in the foreseeable future. Obviously the rare and hardwood is worth lots of monies when it's passed on to the middle man in Vietnam, more so at its destination China.
Who can answer the question, who says it's illegal trade, and why is there so much surveillance and interest by the west?
1/ It is internationally recognized that rare trees such as Siamese rosewood are protected species (listed under CITES Appendix II) and it is illegal to engage in buying and selling the timber, as much as if they were rare animals.

Concrete measures agreed to tackle illicit trafficking in Siamese rosewood
Updated on 06 September 2016 News and highlights
Geneva, 11 April 2016 - The illegal logging and trafficking of Siamese rosewood (Dalbergia cochinchinensis) is causing the serious decline of these species in the wild, and considerable damage to the ecological integrity of Southeast Asian forests. Siamese rosewood is a CITES Appendix II listed species that is native to the Indo-China sub region, and is only found in Cambodia, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Thailand and Viet Nam.

In response, the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation (DNP) of the Kingdom of Thailand hosted a 1st Regional Dialogue on Preventing Illegal Logging and Trade of Siamese Rosewood in Bangkok, Thailand, in December 2014, which identified concrete action points for range, transit and consumer countries to curb the illegal Siamese rosewood trade.
https://cites.org/eng/node/43380

2/ China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and Laos have all signed agreements to protect rosewood and other listed native species, and to prevent the cross-border traffic of the wood. In theory, all the countries are combating illegal logging to the best of their abilities, but the reality of the regional illegal hardwood trade is a different matter, which is why these countries are being held to account internationally.
JOINT PRESS RELEASEON COOPERATION TO COMBAT ILLEGAL LOGGING AND TRADE OF SIAMESE ROSEWOOD
Released in Bangkok on 5 April 2016----------------------[Given by Thailand] [กล่าวโดยผอ.สมเกียรติ์]BANGKOK, 4th April:
As the issue of illegal logging and trafficking of Siamese rosewood reaches critical levels, Cambodia, China, Vietnam and Thailand have all jointly agreed today that counter measures be given the highest priority. The agreement was made at the 2nd Regional Dialogue on Preventing Illegal Logging and Trade of Siamese Rosewood in Bangkok, Thailand, held from 4thto the 5thof April, 2016.

The illegal logging and trafficking of Siamese rosewood (Dalbergia cochinchinensis), native to the Indo-China sub region, and most commonly found in Cambodia, Lao PDR, Thailand and Viet Nam, is causing the serious decline of these species in the wild, not to mention damage to the ecological integrity of Southeast Asian forests,increased illegal transnational crime, and burdening already resource strapped departments responsible for forest protection and law enforcement. In fact, law enforcement and some rangers have sometimes paid the price of protecting the forests from such poaching.
Read more here: https://cites.org/sites/default/files/c ... 042016.pdf
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:32 pm
AndyKK wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:09 am Okay this has been going on a long time and don't seem to be stopped in the foreseeable future. Obviously the rare and hardwood is worth lots of monies when it's passed on to the middle man in Vietnam, more so at its destination China.
Who can answer the question, who says it's illegal trade, and why is there so much surveillance and interest by the west?
1/ It is internationally recognized that rare trees such as Siamese rosewood are protected species (listed under CITES Appendix II) and it is illegal to engage in buying and selling the timber, as much as if they were rare animals.

Concrete measures agreed to tackle illicit trafficking in Siamese rosewood
Updated on 06 September 2016 News and highlights
Geneva, 11 April 2016 - The illegal logging and trafficking of Siamese rosewood (Dalbergia cochinchinensis) is causing the serious decline of these species in the wild, and considerable damage to the ecological integrity of Southeast Asian forests. Siamese rosewood is a CITES Appendix II listed species that is native to the Indo-China sub region, and is only found in Cambodia, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Thailand and Viet Nam.

In response, the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation (DNP) of the Kingdom of Thailand hosted a 1st Regional Dialogue on Preventing Illegal Logging and Trade of Siamese Rosewood in Bangkok, Thailand, in December 2014, which identified concrete action points for range, transit and consumer countries to curb the illegal Siamese rosewood trade.
https://cites.org/eng/node/43380

2/ China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and Laos have all signed agreements to protect rosewood and other listed native species, and to prevent the cross-border traffic of the wood. In theory, all the countries are combating illegal logging to the best of their abilities, but the reality of the regional illegal hardwood trade is a different matter, which is why these countries are being held to account internationally.
JOINT PRESS RELEASEON COOPERATION TO COMBAT ILLEGAL LOGGING AND TRADE OF SIAMESE ROSEWOOD
Released in Bangkok on 5 April 2016----------------------[Given by Thailand] [กล่าวโดยผอ.สมเกียรติ์]BANGKOK, 4th April:
As the issue of illegal logging and trafficking of Siamese rosewood reaches critical levels, Cambodia, China, Vietnam and Thailand have all jointly agreed today that counter measures be given the highest priority. The agreement was made at the 2nd Regional Dialogue on Preventing Illegal Logging and Trade of Siamese Rosewood in Bangkok, Thailand, held from 4thto the 5thof April, 2016.

The illegal logging and trafficking of Siamese rosewood (Dalbergia cochinchinensis), native to the Indo-China sub region, and most commonly found in Cambodia, Lao PDR, Thailand and Viet Nam, is causing the serious decline of these species in the wild, not to mention damage to the ecological integrity of Southeast Asian forests,increased illegal transnational crime, and burdening already resource strapped departments responsible for forest protection and law enforcement. In fact, law enforcement and some rangers have sometimes paid the price of protecting the forests from such poaching.
Read more here: https://cites.org/sites/default/files/c ... 042016.pdf
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Just this morning I was reading about Rosewood trees being felled in the Angkor Park.
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canucklhead wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:13 am Just this morning I was reading about Rosewood trees being felled in the Angkor Park.
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Cambodia News,(Siem Reap): Reports say that the destruction of large trees in the Angkor Park area continues despite the authorities' restrictions there.

The incident of cutting down trees happened on the evening of July 12, 2021, at the entrance of Wat Anlong Shadow, in Thlong village, Leang Dai commune, Angkor Thom district, Siem Reap province.

Please be reminded that in recent years, a group of traders have raided the rosewood rosewood in the Angkor Park area, which is controlled by the joint police force.
Despite this, traders can still take the opportunity to steal rosewood in the Angkor Park area without fear of legal action.

It remains to be seen whether the relevant authorities in Siem Reap and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs can take measures to find the perpetrators who conspired to cut down the forest in the Angkor Park area.
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Funny as rosewood is fairly easy to grow...
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The Cham village near my place had two large Rosewoods growing. One of them was chopped down and stolen in the middle of the night. No one saw/heard anything. Weird as it's an isolated spot that no one would know about unless told... They got started on the second but took off apparently, perhaps lack of time. Villagers then agreed to cut the remaining one themselves and sell it/use it in the Mosque. Luckily I've got four or so growing on my plot which came from seeds of the big ones (naturally fell and started growing). Two of them are like 3+m tall now, in just ~3 years, one well over 4m and one hasn't really taken off. I know in Sri Lanka and Thailand they have large Teak plantations, so not sure why one couldn't do that for Rosewood. Perhaps some parasites get to it or something when grown commercially.
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Cambodian wildlife rangers and the NGO Wildlife Alliance have confiscated over 800 chainsaws so far in 2021.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:35 am Cambodian wildlife rangers and the NGO Wildlife Alliance have confiscated over 800 chainsaws so far in 2021.
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Easy thing to do is stop selling chainsaws, unless there is a legitimate need.
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AndyKK wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:18 am
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:35 am Cambodian wildlife rangers and the NGO Wildlife Alliance have confiscated over 800 chainsaws so far in 2021.
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Easy thing to do is stop selling chainsaws, unless there is a legitimate need.
All very well in theory but what’s legitimate need exactly?
I need to cut wood?

Very hard to police if not impossible.
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