Cambodian coffee not strong?

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Cambodian coffee not strong?

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I've been drinking this local coffee for 2000-3000 reil, i guess is from Vietnam or Cambodia. It is tasty but i find it has no caffeine kick. So i am thinking that the Thai stuff i had in Thailand was the same coffee but perhaps spiked with caffeine chemical? Or is all just me? I also find the green tea it comes with mellows it out. I am sure many times when the green tea has the fragrant taste and smell it is artificially added. So why wouldn't Thai's add caffeine to their coffee?
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I don't know about Thailand, but a lot of Vietnamese coffee is doctored. If you are lucky, they have added soy beans or starch, if you are unlucky, it is ground up batteries.

https://www.reuters.com/article/busines ... KBN1HV18Z/
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hanno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:53 am I don't know about Thailand, but a lot of Vietnamese coffee is doctored. If you are lucky, they have added soy beans or starch, if you are unlucky, it is ground up batteries.

https://www.reuters.com/article/busines ... KBN1HV18Z/
I happen to be a renown connoisseur and international judge of Blend 43.
I have sampled over a dozen of the distinctive versions made in various countries.

I am also old enough to remember when roasted chicory was a bit of a health /fashion hit back in the 1970's - the hippies replacement for coffee.
A very distinctive flavour.

I swear black and blue on my first dog's grave - that the Blend 43 that comes out of the Nestle factory in Vietnam has very strong elements of ground roasted chicory root.
100 bucks at 3/1 on it.

( and i have since learned that chicory has a long history as a coffee flavouring amd replacement in VN.)

Vietnamese Blend 43;
Bitter and a bit foul overall - but that is probably the cheapest possible nestle local Robusta part of the blend that contributes most to that.
The chicory part is just.... odd.

When here;
try to get the Thai, but i think mostly it is the vietnamese hippy style chicory version that is sold here.

Best;
Australian Blend 43 is the best in the world i have tried.

- true connosseurs that mob
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:59 am
hanno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:53 am I don't know about Thailand, but a lot of Vietnamese coffee is doctored. If you are lucky, they have added soy beans or starch, if you are unlucky, it is ground up batteries.

https://www.reuters.com/article/busines ... KBN1HV18Z/
I happen to be a renown connoisseur and international judge of Blend 43.
I have sampled over a dozen of the distinctive versions made in various countries.

I am also old enough to remember when roasted chicory was a bit of a health /fashion hit back in the 1970's - the hippies replacement for coffee.
A very distinctive flavour.

I swear black and blue on my first dog's grave - that the Blend 43 that comes out of the Nestle factory in Vietnam has very strong elements of ground roasted chicory root.
100 bucks at 3/1 on it.

( and i have since learned that chicory has a long history as a coffee flavouring amd replacement in VN.)

Vietnamese Blend 43;
Bitter and a bit foul overall - but that is probably the cheapest possible nestle local Robusta part of the blend that contributes most to that.
The chicory part is just.... odd.

When here;
try to get the Thai, but i think mostly it is the vietnamese hippy style chicory version that is sold here.

Best;
Australian Blend 43 is the best in the world i have tried.

- true connosseurs that mob
Blend 43 is instant coffee and think the OP was talking about ground coffee.
Australian Blend 43 is the best in the world i have tried.

- true con artists that mob

FTFY
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Dr Anik wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:27 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:59 am
hanno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:53 am I don't know about Thailand, but a lot of Vietnamese coffee is doctored. If you are lucky, they have added soy beans or starch, if you are unlucky, it is ground up batteries.

https://www.reuters.com/article/busines ... KBN1HV18Z/
...vietnamese chicory...
Blend 43 is instant coffee and think the OP was talking about ground coffee.
Australian Blend 43 is the best in the world i have tried.

- true con artists that mob

FTFY
Thank you for pointing that out Herr Dr - i was responding directly - and adding to - Hanno's notes on Vietnam's practice of adding substitutions to their coffee - if you missed that.

No appologies for slightly widening the conversation - i see you picked up the "off topic" conversation yourself with your humourless dig at Australia.
Enjoy the rest of your day - sincerely.
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:20 pm
Dr Anik wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:27 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:59 am
hanno wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:53 am I don't know about Thailand, but a lot of Vietnamese coffee is doctored. If you are lucky, they have added soy beans or starch, if you are unlucky, it is ground up batteries.

https://www.reuters.com/article/busines ... KBN1HV18Z/
...vietnamese chicory...
Blend 43 is instant coffee and think the OP was talking about ground coffee.
Australian Blend 43 is the best in the world i have tried.

- true con artists that mob

FTFY
Thank you for pointing that out Herr Dr - i was responding directly - and adding to - Hanno's notes on Vietnam's practice of adding substitutions to their coffee - if you missed that.

No appologies for slightly widening the conversation - i see you picked up the "off topic" conversation yourself with your humourless dig at Australia.
Enjoy the rest of your day - sincerely.
The pleasure was all mine.
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I love chicory coffee. Cafe au lait. Half Chicory coffee and half steamed milk, is a popular Louisiana morning drink (and more so in New Orleans). The biggest coffee stand in New Orleans, Cafe du Monde, is run by Vietnamese.

So did Chicory coffee come from the French to Vietnam, or from Vietnam to the French?
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Happy Jack wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:46 am I've been drinking this local coffee for 2000-3000 reil, i guess is from Vietnam or Cambodia. It is tasty but i find it has no caffeine kick. So i am thinking that the Thai stuff i had in Thailand was the same coffee but perhaps spiked with caffeine chemical? Or is all just me? I also find the green tea it comes with mellows it out. I am sure many times when the green tea has the fragrant taste and smell it is artificially added. So why wouldn't Thai's add caffeine to their coffee?
There are two types of coffee bean, robusta (bold, bitter, high caffeine) and aribica (mild, aromatic, lower caffeine). Most beans grown in South East Asia are robusta, and instant coffees are are usually a blend of both. In Cambodia robusta beans are prevelant. as in Thailand and Vietnam. In the north of Thailand some aribica beans are grown.

You can add caffeine tablets to coffee, it's not expensive and easy obtainable if you want an extra buzz. I prefer Columbian or Costa Rican coffee which is pure aribica because when it comes to coffe, I'm a wimp.
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newkidontheblock wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:42 pm I love chicory coffee. Cafe au lait. Half Chicory coffee and half steamed milk, is a popular Louisiana morning drink (and more so in New Orleans). The biggest coffee stand in New Orleans, Cafe du Monde, is run by Vietnamese.

So did Chicory coffee come from the French to Vietnam, or from Vietnam to the French?
Chicory coffee originated in France.

The Fernandez family owns Café du Monde in New Orleans, Louisiana:
Hubert Fernandez: Bought the coffee stand in 1942 from Fred Koeniger, who opened it in 1862
Karen Fernandez-Benrud: Wife of Burt Benrud, the vice president of Café du Monde
Burt Benrud: Vice president of Café du Monde
The Fernandez family has owned the business for three generations and is now preparing to pass it on to the fourth generation. They have not franchised the business because they don't want to put other families at risk of financial loss.

Vietnamese may work there, but they don't own it.
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