Some Hotels Charge $5/$10 for Food/Drinks Brought to Room?

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phuketrichard wrote:as above PLUS there very few rooms at lonestar
not like a 300 room hotel :-)

Nothing funnier on the eyes than seeing some guy at breakfast with a girl dressed up for the bar the night before
And the girl being very uncomfortable using a fork and a knife. And the mark thinking he is being generous dragging her for brekkie.
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hanno wrote:
wackyjacky wrote:Just send her out by herself and saunter down a half hour later.
If the reception staff are on the ball, they will call your room as soon as they see the girl and ask if the slapper has taken anything from your room.
Agreed. It's more of an ignorethon by the LS staff though.
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phuketrichard wrote:as above PLUS there very few rooms at lonestar
not like a 300 room hotel :-)

Nothing funnier on the eyes than seeing some guy at breakfast with a girl dressed up for the bar the night before
The "pros" usually take a change of clothes, often those pajamas that "No Joke Howard" detests so much :lol:
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Just posted on Flyertalk. Here's the link: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travelbu ... st25228474
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honi soit qui mal y pense
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Having been in the business for 30 years I have never come across such a thing either. But here is a little enlightenment for the uninitiated. Resort Hotels make more money on bar sales than on the rooms. The restaurant and bar mark-up should cover your monthly payroll. So good hotels hate nothing more than guests bringing in their own food and drink but if guests still do they won't say anything either. City hotels is a different matter. Our seven associated hotels in Phnom Penh,though, do a very good restaurant business and guests usually don't bring their food/drink. Most guests who spend $40 to $80 on a room have no problem eating at the hotel restaurant once or twice.
We have a page in our hotel information asking guests to refrain from bringing in food or drink pointing out that we do have a restaurant and room service available. This does not keep some guests from doing it anyway, especially the Russians who also usually stay longer. Sometimes guests even ask us if they can bring something in from outside, e. g. crabs, etc. as we don't serve them. A hotelier''s perspective is if you want to travel on the cheap go to budget hotels which often don't have a restaurant to begin with. The hotel in question probably is not in the 3-star category despite their say-so.
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rubberbaron wrote: Resort Hotels make more money on bar sales than on the rooms.
This statement may be true of small $20-$30 Sihanoukville beach hotels, which have just 15-20 rooms and one bar, and where the average 2-3 guests in a room may drink more than $20-$30 per night at the bar. But it is not generally true of true "resorts" around the world, most of which charge much higher room rates, they don't have a bar for every 15 rooms, they attract more upmarket guests who are interested in a wider range of activities than just getting drunk all day.

See this discussion here:

Rooms and Food & Beverage: Optimizing Revenues and Profits

The Bread and Butter of Hotel Business

If you pick up the Income Statement (or Profit and Loss Statement, as it is more popularly called) of any hotel operation, one of the first things you will perhaps notice is that, between 80% and 90% of Total Revenues are contributed by Rooms and Food and Beverage departments. These two are the major revenue (and later in this article you will see) as well as profit contributors of a hotel operation.
However, between the two departments there are very little similarities other than that they tend to complement each other in a hotel operation.

The Rooms department is really the dominant revenue center in a hotel. By itself it can account for anything between 60% and 80% of hotel revenues. In comparison, the Food and Beverage department contributes between 10% and 20% of Total Revenues. Of course, this is a generic observation, actual percentages will depend on the size and type of hotel, room types and rates, number of restaurant outlets, whether a city hotel or a resort and so forth.

http://hotelexecutive.com/business_revi ... nd-profits
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I have also been in the business for 30 years, mostly in 4-5 star hotels, and if 30% of the revenue was from F&B, that would be a lot. F&B is really not worth the effort and more of a service....
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^^^^ Why do ***** hotels put 5 or 6 restaurants into a property then, if it's just a convenience ? Resort hotels make good money on f & b, especially those with beach front. Plus a big trend is to remodel a frumpy hotel and install a famous chef downstairs to give the property some panache. I don't know squat about the local market, but I do in the States, and it's at 30% there and the trend has been going up for a long time. For the lower end of the market, your statement is 100% correct. LINK: http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Article/143 ... fitability
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hanno wrote:I have also been in the business for 30 years, mostly in 4-5 star hotels, and if 30% of the revenue was from F&B, that would be a lot. F&B is really not worth the effort and more of a service....

I agree. However without the F&B many guests would not stay or not extend. No point in lazing beside the pool if you cannot get a beer or a snack.

Without F&B, my staff would be cut by well over half, however my staff would not get their daily meal, which would cost more or cost me staff.

IMHO you cannot have one without the other.

In season I have some guests that stay by the month and eat nearly every meal here plus drink lots.

In this low season we have cut rates (75% of normal low season room rate is better than 100% of a vacancy) and the majority eat and drink each day which increases the profit noticeably.

Plus I have a lot of locals who come to drink or eat year round, which combined with the guests means that the F&B side is indeed profitable.
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