Rollin' Solar in 2025
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Rollin' Solar in 2025
These would be cool to see in Cambodia ... they do love their big fancy pickups here.
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/27/edi ... 5-release/
EdisonFuture hopes to build electric pickup, van by 2025
Another EV entry shows long load luggers with novel solar integration
by JONATHON RAMSEY
November 27, 2021
EdisonFuture EF1-T Pickup
At the Los Angeles Auto Show, electric vehicle manufacturing hopeful EdisonFuture debuted its first two offerings in conceptual sheetmetal, the EF1-T pickup and EF1-V commercial van. This week, we learned that the startup hopes to begin delivering vehicles in 2025.
We're not sure if these came from the pens of Icona; EdisonFuture didn't mention involvement by the design house with which it is ostensibly partnered. Whoever's responsible likes long, unadorned, straight lines. Electrek reported that the pickup is 243 inches long. We're not sure if that's with the standard 6.5-foot bed or the optional eight-foot bed, but with the standard bed the EF1-T would be about 11 inches longer than the most recent version of the Tesla Cybertruck, and four inches longer than a short-wheelbase Ford F-350 Super Cab with a 6.75-foot bed. The smooth gray exterior gets its only decoration from the angular headlights and taillights; even the door handles are flush. The fancy rims and chunky wheels on the concept truck keep it from looking like an appliance, whereas the steelies on the van make it look like the appliance it's intended to be.
EdisonFuture plans to offer the truck in three trims. Standard will come with a 120-kWh battery powering a single motor good for 440 horsepower, an estimated 300 miles of range, and a 7,500-pound towing capacity. This one is intended to get from standstill to 60 miles per hour in 6.5 seconds. A Premium EF1-T gets a 150-kWh battery, adds a second motor for 690 total horses, ups the range to 380 miles and towing capacity to 9,000 pounds, and lowers the stoplight dash to 4.5 seconds. Top-dog Super uses a 180-kWh battery, adds a third motor for 816 total horsepower, ups the range to 450 miles and towing capacity to 11,000 pounds, while getting to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds. Payload capacity for all three is 3,000 pounds.
When there's no payload, drivers can extend an optional bed cover that can be fitted with solar panels. Instead of a rollout tonneau, a series of concentric bows slide out from behind the cab, creating a turtle-like profile for the greenhouse from cowl to tailgate. It's neat to look at, but it seems the bows eat a hefty chunk of vertical bed space when stowed.
The company touts its solar panel options for the pickup and van, with photovoltaics lining the roof, bed cover, and even the instrument panel on the pickup. In ideal conditions, the panels are said to be able to add from 25 to 35 miles of range, which sounds, let's say, optimistic.
The van comes in cargo capacities ranging from 260 to 400 cubic feet, but EdisonFuture doesn't explain whether the difference is due to wheelbase or something else. There are only two powertrain options here, either a Standard single-motor trim a Long Range dual-motor trim.
The company has rendered the interiors with a 17.5-inch touchscreen for infotainment, and dual seven-inch screens to pick up the feeds from the side cameras. We're told the production versions, targeted for 2025, will change based on customer feedback, though. Refreshingly, EdisonFuture doesn't talk up huge production goals, at least not yet. Seems the company just wants to add more options to the products it already makes with Phoenix Motorcars. Said Chief Marketing Officer Jose Paul Plackal, "The EV space is growing at such a rapid pace, so there is opportunity for numerous OEMs to address the demand. Because our main goal is electric vehicle adoption, we simply provide additional choices that are unique, stylish, and complete with features and spec that create a unique value proposition for drivers."
In 2019, SPI — a Chinese renewable energy company founded in 2016, based in Hong Kong with a North American headquarters in California — announced it would sell "advanced" pickup trucks and last-mile delivery vans under the Phoenix Motorcars label (a California subsidiary which produces electric Class 4 buses and trucks) and a new consumer venture called EdisonFuture — not to be confused with the here-then-gone French company Edison Destiny from 2016.
Related Video
Featured Gallery EdisonFuture EF1-T and EF1-V
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/27/edi ... 5-release/
EdisonFuture hopes to build electric pickup, van by 2025
Another EV entry shows long load luggers with novel solar integration
by JONATHON RAMSEY
November 27, 2021
EdisonFuture EF1-T Pickup
At the Los Angeles Auto Show, electric vehicle manufacturing hopeful EdisonFuture debuted its first two offerings in conceptual sheetmetal, the EF1-T pickup and EF1-V commercial van. This week, we learned that the startup hopes to begin delivering vehicles in 2025.
We're not sure if these came from the pens of Icona; EdisonFuture didn't mention involvement by the design house with which it is ostensibly partnered. Whoever's responsible likes long, unadorned, straight lines. Electrek reported that the pickup is 243 inches long. We're not sure if that's with the standard 6.5-foot bed or the optional eight-foot bed, but with the standard bed the EF1-T would be about 11 inches longer than the most recent version of the Tesla Cybertruck, and four inches longer than a short-wheelbase Ford F-350 Super Cab with a 6.75-foot bed. The smooth gray exterior gets its only decoration from the angular headlights and taillights; even the door handles are flush. The fancy rims and chunky wheels on the concept truck keep it from looking like an appliance, whereas the steelies on the van make it look like the appliance it's intended to be.
EdisonFuture plans to offer the truck in three trims. Standard will come with a 120-kWh battery powering a single motor good for 440 horsepower, an estimated 300 miles of range, and a 7,500-pound towing capacity. This one is intended to get from standstill to 60 miles per hour in 6.5 seconds. A Premium EF1-T gets a 150-kWh battery, adds a second motor for 690 total horses, ups the range to 380 miles and towing capacity to 9,000 pounds, and lowers the stoplight dash to 4.5 seconds. Top-dog Super uses a 180-kWh battery, adds a third motor for 816 total horsepower, ups the range to 450 miles and towing capacity to 11,000 pounds, while getting to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds. Payload capacity for all three is 3,000 pounds.
When there's no payload, drivers can extend an optional bed cover that can be fitted with solar panels. Instead of a rollout tonneau, a series of concentric bows slide out from behind the cab, creating a turtle-like profile for the greenhouse from cowl to tailgate. It's neat to look at, but it seems the bows eat a hefty chunk of vertical bed space when stowed.
The company touts its solar panel options for the pickup and van, with photovoltaics lining the roof, bed cover, and even the instrument panel on the pickup. In ideal conditions, the panels are said to be able to add from 25 to 35 miles of range, which sounds, let's say, optimistic.
The van comes in cargo capacities ranging from 260 to 400 cubic feet, but EdisonFuture doesn't explain whether the difference is due to wheelbase or something else. There are only two powertrain options here, either a Standard single-motor trim a Long Range dual-motor trim.
The company has rendered the interiors with a 17.5-inch touchscreen for infotainment, and dual seven-inch screens to pick up the feeds from the side cameras. We're told the production versions, targeted for 2025, will change based on customer feedback, though. Refreshingly, EdisonFuture doesn't talk up huge production goals, at least not yet. Seems the company just wants to add more options to the products it already makes with Phoenix Motorcars. Said Chief Marketing Officer Jose Paul Plackal, "The EV space is growing at such a rapid pace, so there is opportunity for numerous OEMs to address the demand. Because our main goal is electric vehicle adoption, we simply provide additional choices that are unique, stylish, and complete with features and spec that create a unique value proposition for drivers."
In 2019, SPI — a Chinese renewable energy company founded in 2016, based in Hong Kong with a North American headquarters in California — announced it would sell "advanced" pickup trucks and last-mile delivery vans under the Phoenix Motorcars label (a California subsidiary which produces electric Class 4 buses and trucks) and a new consumer venture called EdisonFuture — not to be confused with the here-then-gone French company Edison Destiny from 2016.
Related Video
Featured Gallery EdisonFuture EF1-T and EF1-V
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Re: Rollin' Solar in 2025
Not practical (at this time). Needs a ton of space out in bright sunlight all day long to generate meaning levels of electricity. Solar panels are still not so good at converting sunlight to electricity.
Tesla considered doing that for the cybertruck - roof and tonneau, but high manufacturing cost vs actual benefit. Vehicle base cost is 100 thousand already.
Fiskar One sedan has a solar roof that’s more of a gimmick (in terms of power production).
As solar panels become more efficient, that equation will change.
Tesla considered doing that for the cybertruck - roof and tonneau, but high manufacturing cost vs actual benefit. Vehicle base cost is 100 thousand already.
Fiskar One sedan has a solar roof that’s more of a gimmick (in terms of power production).
As solar panels become more efficient, that equation will change.
Re: Rollin' Solar in 2025
There was this vapor ware company Sonos Motors, that wanted to do a small car with solar cells on the roof and the sides. Except burning millions of investor money, nothing happened and they finally scrapped it.
If I look at a 800 horsepower monster that has added some solar panels to it - are they just kidding, is this greenwashing, just completely bullshit or do they really do count on that people are completely stupid
If I look at a 800 horsepower monster that has added some solar panels to it - are they just kidding, is this greenwashing, just completely bullshit or do they really do count on that people are completely stupid
Driving on Cambodian roads is just like playing a classic arcade top scroller. The only difference is a force feedback controller, the limitation to only one life and the inability to restart, once Game Over
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Re: Rollin' Solar in 2025
It all starts with a dream ... if you can dream it, you can achieve it!ressl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:01 pm There was this vapor ware company Sonos Motors, that wanted to do a small car with solar cells on the roof and the sides. Except burning millions of investor money, nothing happened and they finally scrapped it.
If I look at a 800 horsepower monster that has added some solar panels to it - are they just kidding, is this greenwashing, just completely bullshit or do they really do count on that people are completely stupid
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Re: Rollin' Solar in 2025
Looks pretty stupid.
First of all the flat solar panel on the roof is...Flat, as well as tiny, looses allot of energy potential just by that and then also add the fact that it will collect dust etc.
Secondly the back panels that extend are even worse, they are not even flat when extended! So you would have to repark the car keeping the back of it facing the sun and how easy is that to do all day if you have a small driveway or parking on a street?
First of all the flat solar panel on the roof is...Flat, as well as tiny, looses allot of energy potential just by that and then also add the fact that it will collect dust etc.
Secondly the back panels that extend are even worse, they are not even flat when extended! So you would have to repark the car keeping the back of it facing the sun and how easy is that to do all day if you have a small driveway or parking on a street?
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