Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill) is sponsoring a bill that would allow illegal/undocumented immigrants to gain citizenship in exchange for military service. That just might have a chance to pass since the Army, Navy, Air Force all failed to reach recruiting goals for 2023. Makes sense too since just 3/10 high school graduates are qualified for military duty. What a mess.

I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

Fridaywithmateo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:18 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

But special forces are.

He's probably a ex SEAL or Ranger but is too modest to tell us.

YaTingPom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:20 pm

Fridaywithmateo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:18 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

But special forces are.

He's probably a ex SEAL or Ranger but is too modest to tell us.

The Filipinos served with US Forces during WWII ... deputized perhaps by executive order (?) ... not exactly sure the specifics, but I know those veterans are still fighting for VA benefits.

When I was on recruiting in Albuquerque, I had a buddy who was the recruiting HMFIC for the Pacific region. He told me a funny story how they would go out to places like Micronesia (a US protectorate) and screen applicants. For the girls on the outer islands, they would have to bring along T-shirts because they still are a topless culture. Rough duty.

Fridaywithmateo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:18 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

Not sure about now, but a good friend of mine fled from Cuba and went to Vietnam to get US citizenship in the late 60's.

hanno wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:39 pm

Fridaywithmateo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:18 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

Not sure about now, but a good friend of mine fled from Cuba and went to Vietnam to get US citizenship in the late 60's.

He likely had paperwork ... prolly asylum status.

Fridaywithmateo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:18 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

This is true, they had temporary status already, but I meant gaining their permanent citizenship.

My point being that allowing undocumented migrants is simply widening the net for a system that is already quite sympathetic to anyone who will sacrifice a limb for its cause.

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:48 pm

Fridaywithmateo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:18 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:10 pm I have some compadres that gained their status through the army, seems it has always worked quite well.

Pretty sure current law does not allow undocumented immigrants to join ... those soldiers would have to have had some legal status to qualify to enlist.

This is true, they had temporary status already, but I meant gaining their permanent citizenship.

My point being that allowing undocumented migrants is simply widening the net for a system that is already quite sympathetic to anyone who will sacrifice a limb for its cause.

Well, they have to do something drastic if they are gonna kick off WW III ...