Who do you support?

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:29 pm

also who do you think bombed the hospital
Islamic jihadist group or
Israel??

I support the Palestinians.
i think Israel did it

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:49 pm

Not enough options.

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:01 pm

I don't support either side, I'm kind of rooting for both sides at the same time.

You can't see the footage of the attack on Israel without feeling bad for them and I can see how Israel needed to retaliate, but at the same time watching civilians get obliterated in Gaza is sickening too and, it could be argued, excessive. But it's easy to say that from the comfort of my sofa, if I was Israeli I'd probably want everyone in Gaza dead.

The people in Gaza have had years of provocation, they finally seem to have lashed out, or at least their leaders have - sucks for the civilians though. I can't really blame them for that either, although it's hard to agree with how they went about it. If I was Palestinian I'd probably want Israel wiped off the map too.

Hamas needs to be wiped out but is it worth the cost in innocent lives? I think all that will happen is the traumatised kids that survive this will be looking to eventually join whatever replaces Hamas.

Both sides are fighting for the place they call home - can't blame anyone for that, but it's a hopeless situation with no real solution IMO, except maybe if one side or the other gets completely wiped out.

TLDR: Dunno. It's a very complicated shitshow.

The hospital... dunno. A misfiring rocket just happening to land on the hospital seems a little too convenient to me, but who knows. And at this point it's probably irrelevant, as far as the Arab world is concerned Israel did it, and they'll suffer whatever repercussions come from it.

Post by **Username Taken** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:04 pm

What a dumb poll.

Who cares who I support, or you support, or anybody else supports.
If we were all to take sides, then we end up with another sh*t fight of a thread that's only going to sow dissent.

Is Biden really going there? I hope they blow him up while they're at it.

Post by **Username Taken** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:05 pm

And then someone will come along and ask why we need yet another thread on the Israel Palestinian conflict?

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:21 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:04 pm What a dumb poll.

Who cares who I support, or you support, or anybody else supports.
If we were all to take sides, then we end up with another sh*t fight of a thread that's only going to sow dissent.

Is Biden really going there? I hope they blow him up while they're at it.

dumb is as dumb does
Yet ; the-rest-the-world/you-support-ukraine- ... it=ukraine

is ok?

EVERYONE takes sides, in everything

he has landed

"Welcome, Mr. President. God bless you for protecting the nation of Israel," Herzog's office quoted him as telling Biden.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:35 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:29 pm

I support the Palestinians.

How, by opening this thread?

We're all pretty useless keyboard warriors, aren't we? Playing the blame game from the convenience of our own safe space while mad men out there are slaughtering each other in the most cruel ways.

Post by **Freightdog** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:38 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:04 pm What a dumb poll.

Indeed.

Option. Both.
Option. People of both, gubbinsment of neither.
Option. Don’t know, and not really sufficiently well informed enough to claim any position.
Option. Palestinians, Israelis, not Hamas.

It’s rather like those surveys for just about anything- they seem only interested in answers that may validate their own opinions and bias, rather than actually getting a better insight into something they may have misunderstood.

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:29 pm
I support the Palestinians.
i think Israel did it

That’s been quite apparent for a little while, now. But consider this- your own view might be quite arbitrary or ill informed, and is not that dissimilar to sentiments expressed (in Europe, and the US) for a little over a hundred years, now. Which is a part of history which culminated in the setting up of the state of Israel in lands currently contested.
Your own rhetoric and thinking is part of the continued cycle that keeps the animosity going.

How would you address that?

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:52 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:21 pm dumb is as dumb does
Yet ; the-rest-the-world/you-support-ukraine- ... it=ukraine

That poll was started long before Russia's special military operation started.Not straight after some emotive event when everyone is throwing blame around.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:13 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:05 pm And then someone will come along and ask why we need yet another thread on the Israel Palestinian conflict?

Here I am !

First off, from the title,I thought that this topic was about Premier League football shirts and shit, because the question, "Who do you support"? obviously refers to sports or games. But war is not a sport. War might be a necessary evil, but it is not (or should not be) a type of popular entertainment for the masses to watch, support, and take bets on.

So yeah UT, getting back on topic, I think it's a great idea to ask why we need yet another thread on foot ball shirts.

Spoiler:

general-chatter/crime-football-shirt-t53017.html