Voluntourism

kiwiincambodia · Post by **kiwiincambodia** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:31 pm

Not butt hurt at all. I just think the forum was better when you weren't posting on it.

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:36 pm

StroppyChops wrote:
rick_o'shea wrote:Internships are not voluntourism are they?
How would you draw the line with self-funded internships?

these cover what your talking about, a self funded internship with the voluntourism angle http://www.lovetefl.com/internship/teach-in-cambodia/

Basically costing you $1500 to be a volunteer teaching assistant for 6weeks

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:41 pm

It doesn't say if a 120-hour TEFL course is included, so we don't know if it is or not.

Too expensive, imo, not to include a certificate course with an accredited organisation, a CELTA in Vietnam only costs a little more than that, and is more widely recognised

They would have to pay a foreign teacher a minimum of $1000

It seems a lot of money to pay to teach, when most schools will pay teachers.

I think the company probably gets something additional from the schools, but I'm not sure.

Many schools are willing to hire new TEFL graduates and pay them, and anyway, very few schools ever check references/experience.

rick_o'shea · Post by **rick_o'shea** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:45 pm

I can't open the link, but it looks like a tefl course. Seems about the right price for a month long tefl.

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:51 pm

From their website:

'You don’t need any previous teaching experience or a second language, just the passion and drive to get out there and teach. If you are new to TEFL you can get qualified in as little as six weeks with our 120 hour online TEFL course. We also have six great specialist courses perfect for learners and experienced teachers alike! These courses will help you to bulk up your CV and earning potential for when you’re looking for TEFL jobs.'

So it looks like the course is not included, as the course is six weeks, and the internship is a month. Confusing.

Nobody/very few sane people would have paid to teach 15 years ago. Why do so many do it now?

Their accreditation appears solid: http://odlqc.org.uk/

Edit: OK, check the itinerary, says nothing about the course:

http://www.lovetefl.com/internship/teach-in-cambodia/

To be fair, if one was rich, it could be an interesting semi-holiday.

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:10 pm

they send you the tefl course to do online before you arrive, all your money gets spent on is your hotel and lunch in the first couple of days in PP, then you go off and do your 6 week volunteering/internship at the school, then you come back and the money covers your holiday hotel and lunch in sihanoukville for 5 days, then the hotel and lunch in PP for the graduation ceremony, i looked into it a couple of years back...
i then worked out that i could do it all for a lot less,
online TEFL course = $150 (approx)
Transport from airport to hotel = $7
2days accomodation + lunch in PP = $30
the intern placement, you stay on the school grounds in shared accommodation for 7 weeks (weekends are free)
5days in sihanoukville = $100
2days accomodation + lunch in PP = $30

So $317 for the expenses that they provide if i was to do it myself, thats a lot of money left over...

rick_o'shea · Post by **rick_o'shea** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:58 pm

Online tefls mean nothing. Do a course where you teach real students.

I'd like a bit more than $100 for 5 days in Sihanoukville, tbh.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:16 pm

'Move to Cambodia' on short-term volunteering. All volunteering is not voluntourism, but sometimes the difference has to be spelt out.

Unless you have a very specific skill set, there is almost no volunteer work in Cambodia that you can effectively do if you’re here less than three months. Most reputable organizations no longer accept volunteers who are not willing to stay for at least 3 or 6 or sometimes 12 months.

Reality check :

Understandably, all those Western volunteers would like to believe that they are different, that the work they are doing does not harm Cambodian children. Unfortunately, they’re wrong.
If you want to work with children in Cambodia, first ask yourself if you are qualified to work with children at home.

Most Westerners would be horrified at the idea of dozens of Cambodians flooding their child’s classroom each year–especially if said Cambodians had no qualifications to teach, had no teaching experience, underwent no background checks, and proceeded to post photos of the children all over Facebook.

If you can’t imagine a school in your home country allowing that, I’m sure you can understand why many feel that it’s not appropriate for Cambodian children, either.

http://www.movetocambodia.com/working-i ... -cambodia/

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:39 am

And here the perspective of a volunteer:

Why I am ashamed to call myself a volunteer

Have you ever felt ashamed to tell people what you do for fear of being judged? For the past 3 months I've been doing voluntary educational consultancy work for a very well reputed charity in Nepal. Yet, when people ask me, 'Oh, so you're volunteering?' I feel myself getting defensive.

It's almost inconceivable to think that the connotations of devoting your time and expertise free of charge could be perceived negatively. But sadly, until there is better regulation of the volunteer travel sector, I believe that there are a worrying number of reasons to fear association with this market.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/sarah-p ... _hp_ref=uk

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:39 am

why wouldn't she say she was doing educational consultancy work?

why feel the need to mention she does not get paid for it?

How do people feel to mention that they PAY to volunteer? LOL

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