AI and machine learning - in any form

orichá · Post by **orichá** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:17 pm

The Economist writes...

Great way to pay less to low grade employees at IQair in Phnom Penh...

orichá · Post by **orichá** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:23 pm

I am a writer and poet . . .

. . . I have never visited any AI helper website ... And I never will.

Art comes from the human mind and the greatness of all the arts depends on learning, experience and above all, the synthetic and expressive quality of one's individual imagination . . . .

That is all.

ItWasntMe · Post by **ItWasntMe** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:25 pm

So where do you think AI comes from?

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:27 pm

ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:25 pm So where do you think AI comes from?

Good point.

orichá · Post by **orichá** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:51 pm

Moot point.

AI does not provide you with anything real. It is a search tool dressed up as "mind"... So far...

Later, maybe a lot of fakes can get away with publishing artificial novels and poems.

... But I know that real human imagination works independently of writing tools. Use of AI to write a story or novel is merely inauthentic at best, and easy to see through...

If you don't understand the ideal and function of original imagination, then you don't understand art.

I suggest you start off -- back in the last century with with Walter Benjamin's, "Art in the age of mechanical reproduction.".

This will help ground your perspective in reality...

ItWasntMe · Post by **ItWasntMe** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:57 pm

orichá wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:51 pm Moot point.

AI does not provide you with anything real. It is a search tool dressed up as "mind"... So far...

Later, maybe a lot of fakes can get away with publishing artificial novels and poems.

... But I know that real human imagination works independently of writing tools. Use of AI to write a story or novel is merely inauthentic at best, and easy to see through...

If you don't understand the ideal and function of original imagination, then you don't understand art.

I suggest you start off -- back in the last century with with Walter Benjamin's, "Art in the age of mechanical reproduction.".

This will help ground your perspective in reality...

Nah, you're the type of person who would refuse to use a pencil to write, because it's supposed to be done with a twig or some shit.

AI is art, it's a tool, it's an amazing creation by the collective human mind.

Creating with AI is a process, your ignorance makes you think it's as easy as 1-2-3, but in reality it takes time and dedication, just as the type of activities that you have decided are more authentic.

orichá · Post by **orichá** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:37 pm

No, you don't understand art. That is all.

Sorry, you are talking tautology to excuse mediocrity and cheating, exactly like the The Economist...

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:51 pm

bears repeating:

Main problem with AI is it is just a database lookup and retrieval device with no real intelligence or emotional reactions. Feed it skewed data, or ask it to give you skewed results and you get skewed results. People can misuse it to get information, data, fake photos, decisions, etc. to support what they want and then claim that use of AI proves they are correct.

ItWasntMe · Post by **ItWasntMe** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:05 pm

You guys are discussing what is essentially the copy and paste function of early computers.

Completely missing the bigger picture.

Somebody creates something that can create anything and you know the haters going to go "that's not creating".

Fortunately the future will happen with or without you

NitNoi · Post by **NitNoi** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 pm

My son (or AI) created this in seconds to go with his dessert contribution to a California BBQ. I was impressed.

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