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I might add for the sake of fairness I also tried to find any academic articles supporting the statement that Marijuana is not addictive. This is what I came up with:

*tumbleweeds*

I'm perfectly happy to change my opinion on this subject by the way. However the evidence strongly points to marijuana being both addictive and harmful. I deal in truth. Not hippie bullshit.

Good day to you, sir.

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Khmu Nation wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 am
Cooldude wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:19 am
Khmu Nation wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:27 pm There are a load of academic articles on marijuana addiction out there - but I guess all the neuroscientists, doctors and PHD holders who have gathered data, studied and written about this subject don't know what they're talking about then.

Thanks for informing me. But why don't you try a better defense and support of your claim that goes against all current scientific data on the subject, rather than bang on about nicotine. Go on. Have a go. Cite a few research papers. Show me your workings.
Please cite your research papers and show us your workings to support your claim.
Sure. Obviously the below papers, which is about 0.00001% of research on this subject are wrong cos 'marijuana isnt addictive man'. This dude oricha says so. And so do you. In fact the below papers are *sotto Otto The Bus Driver* 'a conspiracy man, no doubt paid for by the alcohol industry and the government cos they scared dude, they scared of the weed man, no more wars, world peace, everyone needs to blaze a fatty, yeah dude.'

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As with any studies of this nature, all you have to do is follow the money. These studies aren't cheap and whoever paid for the study is going to get the exact results that they paid for.
You could combine all of these findings, add a five dollar bill and go get yourself a pre roll at one of your favorite dispensaries.
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the biggest problem to weed addiction and if its harmful or not is lack of funds to do research on the subject

One thing is for sure
the countries in the world that allow it an the states in the US where it is legal, show NO increase in medical or social problems because of weed smoking

YET the research done on alcohol an tobacco by far agrees they are harmful
I'l stick with smoking weed
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Khmu Nation wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 am Sure. Obviously the below papers, which is about 0.00001% of research on this subject are wrong cos 'marijuana isnt addictive man'. This dude oricha says so. And so do you. In fact the below papers are *sotto Otto The Bus Driver* 'a conspiracy man, no doubt paid for by the alcohol industry and the government cos they scared dude, they scared of the weed man, no more wars, world peace, everyone needs to blaze a fatty, yeah dude.'
Cooldude wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:11 pm As with any studies of this nature, all you have to do is follow the money. These studies aren't cheap and whoever paid for the study is going to get the exact results that they paid for.
You could combine all of these findings, add a five dollar bill and go get yourself a pre roll at one of your favorite dispensaries.
Easy Otto.

:dm:

End of conversation.

My god.
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phuketrichard wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:11 pm

YET the research done on alcohol an tobacco by far agrees they are harmful
I'l stick with smoking weed
:-)
Ah, the strawman retort. No one is saying alcohol and tobacco aren't more harmful. All I am talking about here is marijuana and I'm stating that marijuana is addictive as well as bad for health. This statement is backed up by about 100 citations from academic papers. I could probably find a thousand. Oh but wait - 'you just have to follow the money man' those academic researchers are being paid by the man' etc. I can also back it up through personal experience and anecdote but I wont bore you with them as they lack gravitas - unlike academic study.

I have nothing against marijuana, or its emerging legality which I believe to be a good thing. I do, however, have something against (middle aged) stoners claiming marijuana is not addictive or harmful. You're wrong. Science backs me up. Of course you have the right to smoke mary jane man all day every day. But at least be aware of what you are getting into. Same with any drug. I'm amazed that there are still people out there that truly believe marijuana is just a herb. It is such a dated outlook and so wrong in the face of modern data.

Anyway, there's no point having this discussion with people like you or any other stoner. It's like debating with teenagers, which of course is your emotional age. You know best. You're right. Now off you go. That Pink Floyd album isnt going to play itself.

Us (us, us, us, us) and them (them, them, them, them)....

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Khmu Nation wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:26 pm
Khmu Nation wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 am Sure. Obviously the below papers, which is about 0.00001% of research on this subject are wrong cos 'marijuana isnt addictive man'. This dude oricha says so. And so do you. In fact the below papers are *sotto Otto The Bus Driver* 'a conspiracy man, no doubt paid for by the alcohol industry and the government cos they scared dude, they scared of the weed man, no more wars, world peace, everyone needs to blaze a fatty, yeah dude.'
Cooldude wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:11 pm As with any studies of this nature, all you have to do is follow the money. These studies aren't cheap and whoever paid for the study is going to get the exact results that they paid for.
You could combine all of these findings, add a five dollar bill and go get yourself a pre roll at one of your favorite dispensaries.
Easy Otto.

:dm:

End of conversation.

My god.
Hit a nerve, did I?
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No nerve hit. You dismissed a load of academic research with the classic stoner defense - its a conspiracy man, thats what they want you to think, etc.

Marijuana is addictive.

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be legal - it should be legal.
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Khmu Nation wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:27 pm No nerve hit. You dismissed a load of academic research with the classic stoner defense - its a conspiracy man, thats what they want you to think, etc.

Marijuana is addictive.

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be legal - it should be legal.
I never said anywhere here that I consumed cannabis.
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Well, data from 25+ years to 50 years ago isn't the sharpest tool to make an opinion, when it comes to study something - usually with the help of technology (which is evolving faster every year), is it ?
Sounds like someone is stuck in the past, glued in his views, and too lazy to dust them off.
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I hope you're not adressing me. All those links are recent. Stating marijuana is non addictive and harmless is a daft as Refer Madness in the 1940s.

I can understand, and tolerate, a 20 year old announcing marijuana is harmless dude. But anyone over 30? Or over 60 in the case if some of you losers.

Fucking grow up.

Shit man.

Wafting through life on that stinking stuff.

Pathetic.
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