Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:10 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:46 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:53 am A couple of weeks of shooting, poisoning or trapping (and selling) will fix the problem. But they won't do anything about it until the place gets a terrible reputation and tourists stop going. It sounds like that process is well underway. .

You seem to have changed your tune in the past couple of years!

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:31 pm The monkeys were the most pleasing aspect of my one and only visit to Ankkor Wat.

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The CEO topic link above ^ leads to a thread from 2021 that's almost identical to this. Tourists were getting bitten and attacked by fearless monkeys (some quite big), and the conclusion was that "something must be done".
BUT, other people were freaking out about the authorities taking action on mad monkeys, because - cruelty to "THE MONKEYS". (In fact, the troublemakers were being removed from Angkor grounds and taken to Phnom Tamao Zoo for "rehab", or that's what they said.)

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. This is definitely between a rock and a hard place for the authorities.

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:45 am

John Bingham wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:46 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:53 am A couple of weeks of shooting, poisoning or trapping (and selling) will fix the problem. But they won't do anything about it until the place gets a terrible reputation and tourists stop going. It sounds like that process is well underway. .

You seem to have changed your tune in the past couple of years!

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:31 pm The monkeys were the most pleasing aspect of my one and only visit to Ankkor Wat.

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Well, who's been a busy boy then?

I haven't changed my tune at all, I was just staying on topic with this new thread (for once).

My 'tune' in that (2 year old) post was my overall impression of Angkor Wat, and it remains exactly the same. I found the whole place underwhelming and overhyped. To me, it was just a pile of crumbling ruins in a cutting in the jungle with the bare minimum of reinvestment from the over-priced ticket revenue. The monkeys provided some mild entertainment on the way to the exit.

My comment in this thread was on the problems the money-for-nothing authorities are storing up for themselves by allowing the macaque population to get out of control. Judging by the above post it seems that ship has sailed and I was much too upbeat in my assessment of the current problem. It seems even a cull won't work. Maybe they should cull the YouTubers, that's the go-to solution for authoritarian governments. I wouldn't put it past them.

Anyway, I'm not going there again so I don't really care. More time for me to try my hand at digging up old posts on CEO and quote them while completely missing the point. Does it take long to learn this skill?

Marx wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:19 am

IraHayes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:32 am
A lack of foresight by those in charge and thus who should know better given the experiences available from other areas around the world that have similar problems is once again telling of a deeper problem that pervades Cambodian society.

As several posts make clear, the problem is that many people, including both tourists and locals, like the monkeys, and the local authorities who try to keep the burgeoning populations in check therefore make themselves very unpopular when they are obliged to resort to violence and coercion. How is this indicative of 'deeper problems that pervade Cambodian society'?

IraHayes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:32 am Doc's posts actually highlight the problem very well tbh.
His initial post that the monkeys were a harmless and amusing spectacle at Angkor Wat only a few years ago has quickly morphed into a serious problem.