Five to six hectares of self-owned land to implement the vision of utopian self-sufficient farms

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Similar to a learning group, non-traditional churches, not Buddhism, Christianity, or Islam, emphasize the value of spreading culture and uniting and helping each other.
Of course, this is not easy, people will have selfishness, cultural differences, etc., need to explore ways and means
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So its a cult?
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杜恩 wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:17 am Five to six hectares of self-owned land to implement the vision of utopian self-sufficient farms
The land is in the north of Stung Treng, which is relatively desolate, but the people here are relatively simple and easy to get along with. They are eager for the attention of the outside world. There are schools aided by Japan, ponds and hospitals aided by the European Union, and roads aided by China, but I am thinking about how to form A self-sufficient way of life to avoid the villagers falling into the banker loan trap is also a need to do, and it makes sense.
I have no idea what the OP is about other than he is trying to raise some benefactor to BUY land for the locals and than he will........ start a commune?? a Co Op?

When Andy had his land and small house above ST ON THE MEKONG, it costs $.50/sq m and i found some choice spots up there as well for around the same or less price

Between ST an the river is 40 kms or so of dirt roads up to the Sopheakmit Waterfalls where there was a defunct restaurant /casino
NOTHING growing on the land at all, a few villages on the river and easy access to Laos and Inland i'd imagine it could be had for less than $.10/sq m ( $1,000/Hah)

Villagers go into debt cause of;
1. to much rain
2. not enough rain

go for it
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It sounds a bit like this. Prepare for famine.

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(or the OP is an AI bot sent to test our credulity)
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phuketrichard wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:59 pm
杜恩 wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:17 am Five to six hectares of self-owned land to implement the vision of utopian self-sufficient farms
The land is in the north of Stung Treng, which is relatively desolate, but the people here are relatively simple and easy to get along with. They are eager for the attention of the outside world. There are schools aided by Japan, ponds and hospitals aided by the European Union, and roads aided by China, but I am thinking about how to form A self-sufficient way of life to avoid the villagers falling into the banker loan trap is also a need to do, and it makes sense.
I have no idea what the OP is about other than he is trying to raise some benefactor to BUY land for the locals and than he will........ start a commune?? a Co Op?

When Andy had his land and small house above ST ON THE MEKONG, it costs $.50/sq m and i found some choice spots up there as well for around the same or less price

Between ST an the river is 40 kms or so of dirt roads up to the Sopheakmit Waterfalls where there was a defunct restaurant /casino
NOTHING growing on the land at all, a few villages on the river and easy access to Laos and Inland i'd imagine it could be had for less than $.10/sq m ( $1,000/Hah)

Villagers go into debt cause of;
1. to much rain
2. not enough rain

go for it
It seems that you know something about this place, my home is not on the side of the waterfall, I am on the 7th road side, the traffic on the side of the road is okay, but the lack of water is indeed a problem. To this day, people in the north are very poor, and change will take time and opportunity. At present, I can't do much, except some fantasy.
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In the spirit of…. I’m not really sure what, might I offer this to DuEn of China?

You may have noticed a shade of scepticism, though not of outright disparagement or ridicule*, in some of the replies thus far. You may have picked up on (if you read any of the threads that in any way involve some of your fellow countrymen) that the efforts of many of your newsworthy countrymen are frequently looked at with incredulity and disdain. Your fellows often do little to endear themselves to the other expat contingents in the KoW, although they can be quite entertaining. (Search for concrete, road dividers, and Lexus RX models, for one)

Your posts on this particular subject (utopian commune) have a certain obscurity that is often not well received, or which can elicit some less than charitable responses.
I’m sure you would do yourself a favour by being a bit clearer. Soon.




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Freightdog wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:26 pm In the spirit of…. I’m not really sure what, might I offer this to DuEn of China?

You may have noticed a shade of scepticism, though not of outright disparagement or ridicule*, in some of the replies thus far. You may have picked up on (if you read any of the threads that in any way involve some of your fellow countrymen) that the efforts of many of your newsworthy countrymen are frequently looked at with incredulity and disdain. Your fellows often do little to endear themselves to the other expat contingents in the KoW, although they can be quite entertaining. (Search for concrete, road dividers, and Lexus RX models, for one)

Your posts on this particular subject (utopian commune) have a certain obscurity that is often not well received, or which can elicit some less than charitable responses.
I’m sure you would do yourself a favour by being a bit clearer. Soon.




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You are right.This is a reality. Where there are people, there will be all kinds of different people and different ideas. It started in 2016 or earlier in 2015, reached its peak in 2018 and 2019 and has affected until now. A lot of funds Manipulation and a lot of criminal activity and more people coming in is really enough to change the relative calm , I'm actually using google translate to write my reply, my English is poor so I need To learn, to understand many bad things in reality, you also need to conceive some meaningful things. This is how life is, and it is better to pursue something.
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Of course, this is not easy, people will have selfishness, cultural differences, etc., need to explore ways and means
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And some people will have undesirable arrogance and ignorance believing that they know better than others. I hope you are insightful enough (or your Google translation works well enough) to realize know who this refers to.
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Self sustaining can be done. No fertilizer, no pesticides, with access to water, etc.

BUT.

That means small yields, no extra to make a profit and get ahead.

Those are my opinions.

Good luck.
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newkidontheblock wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:16 pm Self sustaining can be done. No fertilizer, no pesticides, with access to water, etc.
This is the big issue. He said there was little water around. Many hilly areas outside of the central floodplains are very dry. The solutions, if viable, usually involve serious engineering.
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