Gazzy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:51 pm

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:33 pm

cabron wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:58 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:09 am

hanno wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:12 am Official figures aside, I can tell you from personal experience that tourism in Vietnam is fine. I worked like crazy for the last 10 months. Hat these figures do not factor in is the huge domestic market that Vietnam has.

Right, they don't seem to rely on foreigners that much, which leaves us with the shitty eVisa with no signs of improvement.

Perhaps the Vietnam government do not wish to see swarm of tourists like Thailand or Malaysia. Tourism generates major revenue for any country but they also create numerous civic, social problems, i.e. social behaviors, increase of crime & violence, traffic. Maybe they like it the way it is now.

Maybe. You mean swarms of tourists as in pre-Covid I assume. Even then I don't think that was true of Malaysia. Vietnam are doing well with FDI for factories wanting to relocate from China, so maybe they think that's enough. I doubt it though. I think they will launch a big campaign once Western tourists return to area in big numbers.
I wouldn't say that tourists are responsible for much crime in SE Asian countries. Per capita much less than the locals commit.

Sihanoukville anyone?

cabron wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:58 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:09 am

hanno wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:12 am Official figures aside, I can tell you from personal experience that tourism in Vietnam is fine. I worked like crazy for the last 10 months. Hat these figures do not factor in is the huge domestic market that Vietnam has.

Right, they don't seem to rely on foreigners that much, which leaves us with the shitty eVisa with no signs of improvement.

Perhaps the Vietnam government do not wish to see swarm of tourists like Thailand or Malaysia. Tourism generates major revenue for any country but they also create numerous civic, social problems, i.e. social behaviors, increase of crime & violence, traffic. Maybe they like it the way it is now.

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:33 pm

cabron wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:58 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:09 am

hanno wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:12 am Official figures aside, I can tell you from personal experience that tourism in Vietnam is fine. I worked like crazy for the last 10 months. Hat these figures do not factor in is the huge domestic market that Vietnam has.

Right, they don't seem to rely on foreigners that much, which leaves us with the shitty eVisa with no signs of improvement.

Perhaps the Vietnam government do not wish to see swarm of tourists like Thailand or Malaysia. Tourism generates major revenue for any country but they also create numerous civic, social problems, i.e. social behaviors, increase of crime & violence, traffic. Maybe they like it the way it is now.

Maybe. You mean swarms of tourists as in pre-Covid I assume. Even then I don't think that was true of Malaysia. Vietnam are doing well with FDI for factories wanting to relocate from China, so maybe they think that's enough. I doubt it though. I think they will launch a big campaign once Western tourists return to area in big numbers.
I wouldn't say that tourists are responsible for much crime in SE Asian countries. Per capita much less than the locals commit.

BEIJING, Dec 22 (Reuters) - More than 5,000 people are probably dying each day from COVID-19 in China, health data firm Airfinity estimated, offering a dramatic contrast to official data from Beijing on the country's current outbreak.

The UK-based firm said it had used modelling based on regional Chinese data to produce figures that also put current daily infections in the country at above a million.

Its estimates were "in stark contrast to the official data which is reporting 1,800 cases and only seven official deaths over the past week," it said in a statement.

China's National Health Commission (NHC) did not immediately respond to a request from Reuters for comment. On Thursday it reported no new COVID-19 deaths and 2,966 new local symptomatic cases for Dec. 21.

A senior World Health Organization official said on Wednesday that China might be struggling to keep a tally of COVID infections as it experiences a big spike in cases.

An abrupt U-turn by China on its previous zero-COVID policy following protests has raised global concerns of widespread infections among a vulnerable, undervaccinated population. It has stopped mass testing and no longer reports asymptomatic cases.

Airfinity said its mortality risk analysis suggested between 1.3 to 2.1 million people could die in China's current COVID outbreak. Analyses by other modelling groups have also predicted as many as 2.1 million deaths.

Airfinity estimates the wave could have two peaks at 3.7 million a day in mid-January in regions where cases are currently rising and 4.2 million a day in March in other provinces.

Cases were currently rising fastest in Beijing and the southern province of Guangdong, said the firm.

As arrivals from Europe and the United States are accelerating during the last days of the year, Thailand can expect 11.5mn foreigners visiting the country in 2022, TAT Governor Yuthasak Supasorn said.

Total tourism revenue – including both international and domestic markets – is expected to reach B1.5 trillion, which is around 50% of the pre-COVID level, reports Bloomberg.

It was only three months ago, when Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn, the Minister of Tourism and Sports, said Thailand could expect 12mn visitors in 2022, but only if Chinese tourists resumed travel before the end of the year. China has not reopened yet, but the actual arrivals are now closer to 12mn (which Mr Phiphat expected with Chinese travelers) rather than to 10mn (which he expected without).

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:19 am going by the traffic an number of mini vans the past 2 weeks its almost like a normal high season here

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:28 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:23 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:19 am going by the traffic an number of mini vans the past 2 weeks its almost like a normal high season here

Yeah, Central Bangkok feels crowded A.F. right now, too, I can't wait to get to Phnom Penh!

Suvarnabhumi is getting back to its' old self. Even had to wait for a taxi sleeve at the taxi vending machines because all taxis present had been booked.