Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
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Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
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The BP blocks copying and pasting so you have to click on the link to read the article. Interestingly this one is saying the at risk group is men aged 45-75 whilst the global consensus is the at risk group is men aged 20-40 (ish). Either way this is going to be a challenge to the booster policy.
The BP blocks copying and pasting so you have to click on the link to read the article. Interestingly this one is saying the at risk group is men aged 45-75 whilst the global consensus is the at risk group is men aged 20-40 (ish). Either way this is going to be a challenge to the booster policy.
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Re: Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
One by one these warnings from different countries are percolating into the mediaarmchairlawyer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:25 am https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... art-issues
The BP blocks copying and pasting so you have to click on the link to read the article. Interestingly this one is saying the at risk group is men aged 45-75 whilst the global consensus is the at risk group is men aged 20-40 (ish). Either way this is going to be a challenge to the booster policy.
Good luck finding them by searching Google News though
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Re: Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
An emerging disease expert has voiced concern over the apparent link between a spate of heart-related symptoms among recipients of vaccines made using the mRNA technique, saying even though the risk is low, its impact on the heart is rather sudden and severe.
Citing the results of a study by German doctors, which were published on Nov 27, Dr Thiravat Hemachudha, chief of the Thai Red Cross's Emerging Infectious Diseases Health Science Centre, said there have been at least 25 cases of sudden death occurring within a week from a patient receiving an mRNA vaccine.
All the deaths were recorded as resulting from either myocarditis or pericarditis and had occurred in people aged between 45-75 who had received an mRNA vaccine, he said in his Facebook post.
Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart.
All these 25 cases of heart conditions were confirmed in autopsies carried out within a week after an mRNA vaccination, he said.
The actual figures of people suffering these two heart conditions might be a lot higher than those officially recorded as previous studies into the link between mRNA vaccination and these heart conditions conducted worldwide were all retrospective investigations which didn't include sudden death, he said.
Virologist Yong Poovorawan, meanwhile, offered a guide as to how many shots of the Covid-19 vaccine one should get at the moment.
In most cases, four shots of the vaccine are sufficient for protection against severe coronavirus infection, said Prof Dr Yong, chief of the Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology at Chulalongkorn University's Faculty of Medicine.
Only those who have an underlying medical condition and people aged 60 and over should get a fifth shot four to six months after receiving the fourth shot, he said.
Covid-19 infection is equivalent to receiving a shot of the Covid-19 vaccine and counted altogether with the shots received, he said, adding that a combination of Covid-19 vaccination and natural immunity after infection is believed to offer the most effective immunity against coronavirus infection.
The local infection rate should also be taken into consideration when considering whether to seek a further booster, he added.
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An emerging disease expert has voiced concern over the apparent link between a spate of heart-related symptoms among recipients of vaccines made using the mRNA technique, saying even though the risk is low, its impact on the heart is rather sudden and severe.
Citing the results of a study by German doctors, which were published on Nov 27, Dr Thiravat Hemachudha, chief of the Thai Red Cross's Emerging Infectious Diseases Health Science Centre, said there have been at least 25 cases of sudden death occurring within a week from a patient receiving an mRNA vaccine.
All the deaths were recorded as resulting from either myocarditis or pericarditis and had occurred in people aged between 45-75 who had received an mRNA vaccine, he said in his Facebook post.
Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart.
All these 25 cases of heart conditions were confirmed in autopsies carried out within a week after an mRNA vaccination, he said.
The actual figures of people suffering these two heart conditions might be a lot higher than those officially recorded as previous studies into the link between mRNA vaccination and these heart conditions conducted worldwide were all retrospective investigations which didn't include sudden death, he said.
Virologist Yong Poovorawan, meanwhile, offered a guide as to how many shots of the Covid-19 vaccine one should get at the moment.
In most cases, four shots of the vaccine are sufficient for protection against severe coronavirus infection, said Prof Dr Yong, chief of the Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology at Chulalongkorn University's Faculty of Medicine.
Only those who have an underlying medical condition and people aged 60 and over should get a fifth shot four to six months after receiving the fourth shot, he said.
Covid-19 infection is equivalent to receiving a shot of the Covid-19 vaccine and counted altogether with the shots received, he said, adding that a combination of Covid-19 vaccination and natural immunity after infection is believed to offer the most effective immunity against coronavirus infection.
The local infection rate should also be taken into consideration when considering whether to seek a further booster, he added.
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Re: Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
But but but ..... The 'science' said it was ok ..... So did the pols .... So did the late night talk show hosts .... So did the big brains herein ..... This has to be balderdash ... Only the tin foil crowd suggested Big Pharma might not really have our best interest at heart .... That maybe profits and a test to see how compliant the general public are was the true motivation .... Oh well, too bad .... One thing I am sure of is that no jab avoider regrets that avoidance ..... Baa baa go the sheep ....
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Wow, that's some deep thinking there. However it's not your thinking, you just parrot the anti-vaxxer lines. What was that about sheep?CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:31 pm But but but ..... The 'science' said it was ok ..... So did the pols .... So did the late night talk show hosts .... So did the big brains herein ..... This has to be balderdash ... Only the tin foil crowd suggested Big Pharma might not really have our best interest at heart .... That maybe profits and a test to see how compliant the general public are was the true motivation .... Oh well, too bad .... One thing I am sure of is that no jab avoider regrets that avoidance ..... Baa baa go the sheep ....
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Come on JB, try and keep up .... Our preferred pronoun is 'Pure Blood' ... not 'anti vaxxer' ...John Bingham wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:40 pmWow, that's some deep thinking there. However it's not your thinking, you just parrot the anti-vaxxer lines. What was that about sheep?CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:31 pm But but but ..... The 'science' said it was ok ..... So did the pols .... So did the late night talk show hosts .... So did the big brains herein ..... This has to be balderdash ... Only the tin foil crowd suggested Big Pharma might not really have our best interest at heart .... That maybe profits and a test to see how compliant the general public are was the true motivation .... Oh well, too bad .... One thing I am sure of is that no jab avoider regrets that avoidance ..... Baa baa go the sheep ....
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Re: Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
A quick google search tells me 84% of people in Thailand are vaccinated, 77% fully vaccinated and that Thailand has around 70 million people.
So that's a LOT of people vaccinated - tens of millions, and around 25 + people had a bad reaction to the vaccine. 25 people from a group of tens of millions.
How many people are allergic to things like penicillin or even peanuts? Probably more than 25 people out of tens of millions but nobody is advocating banning the use of penicillin because that would be idiotic. We also know from experience and data that the chances of being hospitalised are far greater if you're unvaxxed.
The risk involved in not getting the vax far outweigh the very slight risk of this heart issue.
Not trying to convince anyone here to get the shot if they haven't already, I couldn't care less either way. Just saying the risk of a vaccine giving you this heart condition is miniscule.
So that's a LOT of people vaccinated - tens of millions, and around 25 + people had a bad reaction to the vaccine. 25 people from a group of tens of millions.
How many people are allergic to things like penicillin or even peanuts? Probably more than 25 people out of tens of millions but nobody is advocating banning the use of penicillin because that would be idiotic. We also know from experience and data that the chances of being hospitalised are far greater if you're unvaxxed.
The risk involved in not getting the vax far outweigh the very slight risk of this heart issue.
Not trying to convince anyone here to get the shot if they haven't already, I couldn't care less either way. Just saying the risk of a vaccine giving you this heart condition is miniscule.
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It's 25 people globally, rather than in Thailand, who have been confirmed through an autopsy within a week of their deaths to have died as a result of severe myocarditis and/or pericarditis, so the chances get even smallerRandom Dude wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:22 pm A quick google search tells me 84% of people in Thailand are vaccinated, 77% fully vaccinated and that Thailand has around 70 million people.
So that's a LOT of people vaccinated - tens of millions, and around 25 + people had a bad reaction to the vaccine. 25 people from a group of tens of millions.
However, there are similar alarms being sounded, independently, on a global scale about the link between mRNA covid jabs and these conditions - and the inference at the moment is that it might well be a FAR more common side effect than has thus far been known. A British MP was claiming in parliament that these vaccines cause documented issues for one in 800 people
I will continue to swerve mRNA vaccines for now and watch this snowball effect grow
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Here's a fun fact. Covid can also give you myocarditis.
"The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows."
It seems you're more likely to develop a heart issue from covid than from the vaccine.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/2 ... n-vaccines
"The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows."
It seems you're more likely to develop a heart issue from covid than from the vaccine.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/2 ... n-vaccines
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Re: Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues
Picky, but…Random Dude wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:22 pm
So that's a LOT of people vaccinated - tens of millions, and around 25 + people had a bad reaction to the vaccine. 25 people from a group of tens of millions.
Isn’t this 25 people who had a fatal reaction, within a coincidentally short time of having the booster/vaccine, and the results seen by autopsy. The concern being that the prevalence of similar, but non-fatal heart conditions may actually be going unrecognized?
Those heart conditions could have profound affects on folk, beyond just killing a person.
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