Thai Expert warns of mRNA jab link to acute heart issues

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New study shows that the more vaccinated you are, the more likely you are to contract Covid.

Vaccine doses versus risk of covid during the 3-month study period
One dose, 1.7 times more likely to test positive for covid
Two doses, 2.63 times more likely to test positive for covid
Three doses, 3.1 times more likely to test positive for covid
More than three doses, 3.8 times more likely to test positive for covid

So compared to the unvaccinated

1, x 1.7
2, x 2.36
3, x 3.1
4, x 3.38

P = 0.001 means 999 out of 1,000 likely to be a genuine result
That 99.9% likely to be a genuine result

Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21258231v1

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Of course. Many of the Covid vaccines are actually the virus itself.
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xandreu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:12 am New study shows that the more vaccinated you are, the more likely you are to contract Covid.

Vaccine doses versus risk of covid during the 3-month study period
One dose, 1.7 times more likely to test positive for covid
Two doses, 2.63 times more likely to test positive for covid
Three doses, 3.1 times more likely to test positive for covid
More than three doses, 3.8 times more likely to test positive for covid

So compared to the unvaccinated

1, x 1.7
2, x 2.36
3, x 3.1
4, x 3.38

P = 0.001 means 999 out of 1,000 likely to be a genuine result
That 99.9% likely to be a genuine result

Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21258231v1
@ xandreu I'm not sure if we are reading the same article ? From your link:
ABSTRACT

Background The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have shown great promise in clinical trials. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the effectiveness of these vaccines under real-world conditions in the USA.

Methods Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System, previously not infected with SARS-CoV-2, and working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination began, were included. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, over the next 5 months, was compared among those who received the vaccine and those who did not, by modeling vaccination as a time-dependent covariate in Cox proportional hazards regression analyses adjusted for the slope of the epidemic curve as a continuous time-dependent covariate.

Results Of the 46866 included employees, 28223 (60%) were vaccinated by the end of the study period.
The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection was much higher among those not vaccinated than those vaccinated. Only 15 (0.7%) of the 2154 SARS-CoV-2 infections during the study occurred among those vaccinated.
After adjusting for the slope of the epidemic curve, age, and job type, vaccination was associated with a significantly reduced risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection (HR 0.03, 95% C.I. 0.02 – 0.06, p < 0.001), corresponding to a vaccine effectiveness rate of 97.1% (95% CI 94.3 – 98.5). Vaccine effectiveness was 89.2% at 7 days and 95.0% at 14 days after the first vaccine dose.

Conclusions The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are over 97% protective against COVID-19 in the working-age population, with substantial protection possibly apparent within a few days of the first dose.

Summary The effectiveness of mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines was evaluated among 46866 employees in an American healthcare system. After adjusting for age, job type, and the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was 97.1% effective in preventing COVID-19 among the fully vaccinated, and 89.2% protective within 7 days of the first dose.
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Anchor Moy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:54 am
xandreu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:12 am New study shows that the more vaccinated you are, the more likely you are to contract Covid.

Vaccine doses versus risk of covid during the 3-month study period
One dose, 1.7 times more likely to test positive for covid
Two doses, 2.63 times more likely to test positive for covid
Three doses, 3.1 times more likely to test positive for covid
More than three doses, 3.8 times more likely to test positive for covid

So compared to the unvaccinated

1, x 1.7
2, x 2.36
3, x 3.1
4, x 3.38

P = 0.001 means 999 out of 1,000 likely to be a genuine result
That 99.9% likely to be a genuine result

Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21258231v1
@ xandreu I'm not sure if we are reading the same article ? From your link:
ABSTRACT

Background The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have shown great promise in clinical trials. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the effectiveness of these vaccines under real-world conditions in the USA.

Methods Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System, previously not infected with SARS-CoV-2, and working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination began, were included. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, over the next 5 months, was compared among those who received the vaccine and those who did not, by modeling vaccination as a time-dependent covariate in Cox proportional hazards regression analyses adjusted for the slope of the epidemic curve as a continuous time-dependent covariate.

Results Of the 46866 included employees, 28223 (60%) were vaccinated by the end of the study period.
The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection was much higher among those not vaccinated than those vaccinated. Only 15 (0.7%) of the 2154 SARS-CoV-2 infections during the study occurred among those vaccinated.
After adjusting for the slope of the epidemic curve, age, and job type, vaccination was associated with a significantly reduced risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection (HR 0.03, 95% C.I. 0.02 – 0.06, p < 0.001), corresponding to a vaccine effectiveness rate of 97.1% (95% CI 94.3 – 98.5). Vaccine effectiveness was 89.2% at 7 days and 95.0% at 14 days after the first vaccine dose.

Conclusions The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are over 97% protective against COVID-19 in the working-age population, with substantial protection possibly apparent within a few days of the first dose.

Summary The effectiveness of mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines was evaluated among 46866 employees in an American healthcare system. After adjusting for age, job type, and the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was 97.1% effective in preventing COVID-19 among the fully vaccinated, and 89.2% protective within 7 days of the first dose.
Sorry, wrong link. That was the link to the study posted June 05 2021.

Here is the latest study from the same organisation - Posted 19th December 2022 - which was the link I should have posted.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 625v1.full
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories - in fact, most of them, and those that peddle them, really annoy me, unless they're backed up by verifiable, reliable evidence.

However, so many things about the current Chinese situation simply don't make sense, and the mainstream media seem to be doing their damn best at avoiding giving any explanation as to what's going on whatsoever.

While more people are currently dying in China than at any time since the start of the pandemic (according to many analysts, as the official Chinese numbers can't be trusted) the Chinese government are continuing to insist that this is still the omicron variant and that the overwhelming majority of people don't need to go to hospital and will recover within a week or so. This, despite numerous reports coming out of China such as bodies being left in vehicles for up to a week while they wait for a space at the crematorium, and frozen food storage fridges being used as emergency morgues. It's like being back at the start of 2020 again, and doesn't at all align with the official story of this being the relatively harmless omicron variant which most people recover from within a week.

And yet these people are now being allowed free reign to travel around the world at whim. While some countries have put some restrictions in place, they seem very lax and most countries won't insist on these travellers quarantining even if they arrive from China and test positive. I read the other day that in two recent test flights, more than half of passengers arriving from China were found to be positive.

So many questions -

Is this really 'just' the omicron variant?
If so, why are so many people dying?
If so many people are dying, why are they being allowed to travel freely around the world?
Why doesn't there seem to be much, or any, concern about this in global media?

I realise that the rest of the world have mostly been vaccinated now, and perhaps most Chinese haven't, or they have. but with their own non-effective vaccines, but that still doesn't explain the fact that omicron itself is supposed to be acting as a natural vaccine - few, in any, symptoms, leading to natural immunity.

Why so many deaths, and given these deaths, why the freedom to travel?
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Jerry Atrick wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:47 pm
The same guy who pumps steroids into his body is claiming this vaccine is “poison”? Okay.
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Kenr wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:01 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:47 pm
The same guy who pumps steroids into his body is claiming this vaccine is “poison”? Okay.
Tell me you didn't listen to the clip without telling me you didn't listen to the clip lol


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Jerry Atrick wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:04 pm
Kenr wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:01 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:47 pm
The same guy who pumps steroids into his body is claiming this vaccine is “poison”? Okay.
Tell me you didn't listen to the clip without telling me you didn't listen to the clip lol


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He’s backpedaled on this issue before, claiming young, healthy people who work out don’t need the vaccine. Steroids are okay, but not the vaccine.
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