CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:02 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:51 pm

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:48 pm That’s a big reduction in the meat supply. What ever happens when there is an abrupt shortage and not enough the meat demand?

Either prices will climb and hurt the most vulnerable.

Or hoarding will occur. Or both.

Of course the government could start rationing pigs, chickens, etc. and hand out ration cards … like during the war.

Most of their meat is for export - so I doubt there will be any need for ration cards unless there's another pan-European war

The producers will doubtless move elsewhere

Perhaps the Dutch won't have shortages but what about those folks who import these meats ?

These carbon targets are being accepted across the western world ... Where exactly is a Dutch milk producer, his multi million dollar automated barn and 200 head herd of milkers supposed to go ?

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:18 pm

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:02 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:51 pm

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:48 pm That’s a big reduction in the meat supply. What ever happens when there is an abrupt shortage and not enough the meat demand?

Either prices will climb and hurt the most vulnerable.

Or hoarding will occur. Or both.

Of course the government could start rationing pigs, chickens, etc. and hand out ration cards … like during the war.

Most of their meat is for export - so I doubt there will be any need for ration cards unless there's another pan-European war

The producers will doubtless move elsewhere

Perhaps the Dutch won't have shortages but what about those folks who import these meats ?

These carbon targets are being accepted across the western world ... Where exactly is a Dutch milk producer, his multi million dollar automated barn and 200 head herd of milkers supposed to go ?

This is not about carbon.

A milk producer with 200 cows is not what they're aiming for. They're aiming for multi thousand pig farms, sending the pigs to Italy to make Parma ham.

Of course the production will move, and rightly so. The production is simply too intensive for a small densely populated country like the Netherlands. The Netherlands are the second exporter of agricultural products in the world, number 134 in size. Please take a look at the world map and ask yourself how realistic that is in the long term.

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:21 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:18 pm

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:02 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:51 pm

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:48 pm That’s a big reduction in the meat supply. What ever happens when there is an abrupt shortage and not enough the meat demand?

Either prices will climb and hurt the most vulnerable.

Or hoarding will occur. Or both.

Of course the government could start rationing pigs, chickens, etc. and hand out ration cards … like during the war.

Most of their meat is for export - so I doubt there will be any need for ration cards unless there's another pan-European war

The producers will doubtless move elsewhere

Perhaps the Dutch won't have shortages but what about those folks who import these meats ?

These carbon targets are being accepted across the western world ... Where exactly is a Dutch milk producer, his multi million dollar automated barn and 200 head herd of milkers supposed to go ?

This is not about carbon.

A milk producer with 200 cows is not what they're aiming for. They're aiming for multi thousand pig farms, sending the pigs to Italy to make Parma ham.

Of course the production will move, and rightly so. The production is simply too intensive for a small densely populated country like the Netherlands. The Netherlands are the second exporter of agricultural products in the world, number 134 in size. Please take a look at the world map and ask yourself how realistic that is in the long term.

It must be hard already knowing everything about everything .....

atst wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:27 pm You gotta subscribe to read the article,

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:52 pm

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:21 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:18 pm

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:02 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:51 pm


Most of their meat is for export - so I doubt there will be any need for ration cards unless there's another pan-European war

The producers will doubtless move elsewhere

Perhaps the Dutch won't have shortages but what about those folks who import these meats ?

These carbon targets are being accepted across the western world ... Where exactly is a Dutch milk producer, his multi million dollar automated barn and 200 head herd of milkers supposed to go ?

This is not about carbon.

A milk producer with 200 cows is not what they're aiming for. They're aiming for multi thousand pig farms, sending the pigs to Italy to make Parma ham.

Of course the production will move, and rightly so. The production is simply too intensive for a small densely populated country like the Netherlands. The Netherlands are the second exporter of agricultural products in the world, number 134 in size. Please take a look at the world map and ask yourself how realistic that is in the long term.

It must be hard already knowing everything about everything .....

At least I know carbon isn't the issue here.

Re: Dutch Farmers Protest Getting Wild
Post by Anchor Moy » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:11 am
Shame. The people who are protesting are not small farmers, but belong to big industrial farmers unions. The intensive farmers who are polluting the water tables are protesting against environmental rules, because they are being told that from now on "user pays".
Farmers need to face up to the facts. Waste and run-off from intensive farming in Europe pollutes the rivers, and is also seeping into the water tables underground, polluting drinking water for the general population. Surely those who have caused the problem should accept responsibility and pay for it ?
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _Ecosystem

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:50 pm
As I said, you wouldn’t read anything that might actually inform you of something outside your own imagination.

If you knew twice as much as you actually do you still wouldn’t know half as much as you think you do ....

You are so consistently wrong on so many different subjects I long ago promised myself I wouldn’t get drawn into your delusions.... I’ve got to get back and fulfill that promise to myself .... ciao