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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm
mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:40 am After officially living(wp, taxes, ..) and working here for 7 years (where last 3 years work on projects for Cambodia government) i feel disappointed there's no long term/permanent visa possibilities.
After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is a possibility.
Is this a viable option for ordinary mortals like us, or is it technically available but in practice will just wear you down with the document run-around game until they find something you can't comply with or just give up?
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
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mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:26 pm
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
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Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
Yes and i am not rich Cambodian. Again i didn't research in details but as far as i know for Khmer (who got they passport because they were born in Cambodia or they parents are Khmer) is allowed to have double citizenship but if u apply by naturalization process u must give up all your citizenship's.

I heard some stories that Chinese can get Khmer citizenship and keep they Chinese by providing fake certificates that they no longer Chinese.. (cause there's no way for Cambodian goverment actually check if u did it or not) but then again we speak about legal way of doing things.
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Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm
mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:26 pm
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
My country (EU member) doesn't allow me dual citizenship too. If they brought me a Cambodian passport for free I would refuse it. It's not an EU thing, it's a national law that applies.
My kid can have dual citizenship because the parents have a different nationality but I don't, so....
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Kammekor wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:37 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm
mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:26 pm
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
My country (EU member) doesn't allow me dual citizenship too. If they brought me a Cambodian passport for free I would refuse it. It's not an EU thing, it's a national law that applies.
My kid can have dual citizenship because the parents have a different nationality but I don't, so....
Interesting. I thought countries that didn't permit duals citizenship were the more authoritarian types, not the laid-back place you come from.
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Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:51 pm
Kammekor wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:37 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm
mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:26 pm
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
My country (EU member) doesn't allow me dual citizenship too. If they brought me a Cambodian passport for free I would refuse it. It's not an EU thing, it's a national law that applies.
My kid can have dual citizenship because the parents have a different nationality but I don't, so....
Interesting. I thought countries that didn't permit duals citizenship were the more authoritarian types, not the laid-back place you come from.
Many don't know, some find out too late unfortunately....
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mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:37 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
Yes and i am not rich Cambodian. Again i didn't research in details but as far as i know for Khmer (who got they passport because they were born in Cambodia or they parents are Khmer) is allowed to have double citizenship but if u apply by naturalization process u must give up all your citizenship's.
If you obtain Cambodian Citizenship via Naturalisation you are not required to give up your other Citizenship under Cambodian Law, that's a load of rubbish! You would only need to renounce your other Citizenship if that country had laws which didn't permit dual Citizenship.

As to whether it is a viable option, as long as you speak Khmer fluently, read & write basic Khmer, have a basic knowledge of Cambodian history and culture, and are organised enough to collect all of the required supporting documentation, then yes it is rather simple and inexpensive, not a quick process though unless you're willing to pony up about 25K and/or are well connected.
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Kammekor wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:37 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm
mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:26 pm
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
My country (EU member) doesn't allow me dual citizenship too. If they brought me a Cambodian passport for free I would refuse it. It's not an EU thing, it's a national law that applies.
My kid can have dual citizenship because the parents have a different nationality but I don't, so....
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mannanman wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:10 pm
Kammekor wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:37 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:32 pm
mi1 wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:26 pm
PSD-Kiwi wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:12 pm After living here for 7 yrs you are eligible to apply for Citizenship via Naturalisation, so there is the possibility of never needing a Visa EOS ever again.
Yes but then i have to give up me EU citizenship, which is not acceptable.. and i didn't research much but this naturalization process is somehow dodgy too, feels like hard to do without bribes.
It's not really an option for most of long term expats.
Why? Plenty of rich Cambodians with EU passports.
My country (EU member) doesn't allow me dual citizenship too. If they brought me a Cambodian passport for free I would refuse it. It's not an EU thing, it's a national law that applies.
My kid can have dual citizenship because the parents have a different nationality but I don't, so....
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