30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
Re: 30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
Malaria stems from 'mal aire' and I think the 'mal aire' has been (mis)translated into English.ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:12 pmAlright, so the cause of death is reasonably malaria or is that just were the word came from?Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:11 pmIt is. Bad air stems from malaria (mal aire = bad air in French). Then add some Khmer folk culture and a sniff of ghostery....ItWasntMe wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:07 pmThe wind appears to be able to kill with impunity.CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:39 pm After the local authorities arrived, they contacted the specialized unit to inspect after the expert examination, confirming that the decease of the guard was due to the wind, and then made a note to hand over the body to the family for the ceremony. RIP.
Must have either connections or money.
Or is it a bad translation?
I.e. cause of death is still bad air / wind / ghosts?
Generally 'bad air' in Cambodia is used when the cause of death is unknown.
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Re: 30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
Where's a competent autopsist when you need one? Yes, we know he died when he stopped breathing but...
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Re: 30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
It's got nothing to do with malaria:
https://ethnomed.org/resource/ethnograp ... d-illness/#Wind Illness (khyol, kerd khyol, khyol chab,krun khyol)
Khyol literally means wind. The informants interchangeably used kerd khyol (having the wind), khyol chab (catching the wind), krun khyol (wind illness) to describe wind illness. A focus group suggested that at one time the term “having wind illness” might have been synonymous with the terms “illness, sickness, or fever.” The informants defined wind illness as: 1) not a physical wind, or air but rather a state of illness when the body was out of balance from overwork, lack of food and sleep, and exposure to diverse weather from hot to cold to rain; 2) an illness state when the body responded to known conditions such as a common cold, diabetes, or hypertension; 3) an illness resulting when the four basic human elements (wind, water, earth, and fire) were out of balance. (This was explained by two men in their 70s, however, it was not known among younger informants.)
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Re: 30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
Wind illness is the English translation of Khyol...... Extract from Ethnographic Study among Seattle Cambodians: Wind Illness
The informants were asked to describe fever and dizziness, their causes, common symptoms associated with fever and dizziness, symptom management, and their worries and fears. The informants associated both fever and dizziness to a syndrome called “wind illness,” or known in Cambodian as khyol (pronounced khyol). It was decided that in order to understand fever and dizziness” in the Cambodian cultural context, the study needed to explore the association between fever, dizziness, and wind illness.
Clinical Features
The following are characteristics of wind illness found in this study: mild to moderate (normal khyol); moderate to severe (blocked khyol); severe (ripe khyol); and life threatening (mute khyol).
https://ethnomed.org/resource/ethnograp ... -illness/#
Another study:Kyol Goeu (‘Wind Overload’) Part II: Prevalence, Characteristics, and Mechanisms of Kyol Goeu and Near-Kyol Goeu Episodes of Khmer Patients Attending a Psychiatric Clinic
As detailed in the previous article in this journal (Hinton, 2001a), Khmer consider kyol goeu to be a potentially fatal fainting episode. According to the Khmer conception, prior to an episode, despite some accumulation of wind in the body (e.g., in the limb vessels, belly, chest, neck vessels, and head), the person may feel just some malaise. One day, most often upon standing, the individual will suddenly feel dizzy while concurrently experiencing other panic-like symptoms (e.g., palpitations, shortness of breath, and blurred vision) and then fall to the ground. In the supine position, the sufferer normally retains conscious awareness but can not move or speak. Family members and friends must quickly administer various emergency treatments that aim to directly remove excessive wind from the body (e.g., by ‘coining’), cause the wind to move normally in its course through the vessels (e.g., by massaging the limbs), and rouse to consciousness (e.g., by biting the ankle). Khmer believe that if these interventions are not implemented quickly, the sufferer will either permanently lose the use of a limb, such as an arm, or die.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929671/
The informants were asked to describe fever and dizziness, their causes, common symptoms associated with fever and dizziness, symptom management, and their worries and fears. The informants associated both fever and dizziness to a syndrome called “wind illness,” or known in Cambodian as khyol (pronounced khyol). It was decided that in order to understand fever and dizziness” in the Cambodian cultural context, the study needed to explore the association between fever, dizziness, and wind illness.
Clinical Features
The following are characteristics of wind illness found in this study: mild to moderate (normal khyol); moderate to severe (blocked khyol); severe (ripe khyol); and life threatening (mute khyol).
https://ethnomed.org/resource/ethnograp ... -illness/#
Another study:Kyol Goeu (‘Wind Overload’) Part II: Prevalence, Characteristics, and Mechanisms of Kyol Goeu and Near-Kyol Goeu Episodes of Khmer Patients Attending a Psychiatric Clinic
As detailed in the previous article in this journal (Hinton, 2001a), Khmer consider kyol goeu to be a potentially fatal fainting episode. According to the Khmer conception, prior to an episode, despite some accumulation of wind in the body (e.g., in the limb vessels, belly, chest, neck vessels, and head), the person may feel just some malaise. One day, most often upon standing, the individual will suddenly feel dizzy while concurrently experiencing other panic-like symptoms (e.g., palpitations, shortness of breath, and blurred vision) and then fall to the ground. In the supine position, the sufferer normally retains conscious awareness but can not move or speak. Family members and friends must quickly administer various emergency treatments that aim to directly remove excessive wind from the body (e.g., by ‘coining’), cause the wind to move normally in its course through the vessels (e.g., by massaging the limbs), and rouse to consciousness (e.g., by biting the ankle). Khmer believe that if these interventions are not implemented quickly, the sufferer will either permanently lose the use of a limb, such as an arm, or die.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929671/
Re: 30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
Alright so it's basically an umbrella diagnosis for everything from insomnia to stroke. Makes more sense now.John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:57 pm It's got nothing to do with malaria:
https://ethnomed.org/resource/ethnograp ... d-illness/#Wind Illness (khyol, kerd khyol, khyol chab,krun khyol)
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Re: 30Yo Guard at Badminton Fitness Centre Drops Dead on Duty
So, perhaps actually "Out of wind" - i.e. exhaustion?John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:57 pm It's got nothing to do with malaria:
https://ethnomed.org/resource/ethnograp ... d-illness/#Wind Illness (khyol, kerd khyol, khyol chab,krun khyol)
Khyol literally means wind. The informants interchangeably used kerd khyol (having the wind), khyol chab (catching the wind), krun khyol (wind illness) to describe wind illness. A focus group suggested that at one time the term “having wind illness” might have been synonymous with the terms “illness, sickness, or fever.” The informants defined wind illness as: 1) not a physical wind, or air but rather a state of illness when the body was out of balance from overwork, lack of food and sleep, and exposure to diverse weather from hot to cold to rain; 2) an illness state when the body responded to known conditions such as a common cold, diabetes, or hypertension; 3) an illness resulting when the four basic human elements (wind, water, earth, and fire) were out of balance. (This was explained by two men in their 70s, however, it was not known among younger informants.)
Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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