How liveable is Cambodia?
Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
Am I correct in assuming you're looking for a multi-bedroom house in a borey? If not, please explain a bit. I ask because that US$1500/month is a scary figure. So isn't the US$800/month (30,000 baht) for western style condo apartment in Phnom Penh that another poster mentioned. This amount would get you a pretty damn nice, spacious apartment in Bangkok. A friend pays this for a 120 sq m beauty on a very nice soi off Sukhumvit.hanno wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:17 amSounds like a whale of a timephuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:07 am As to expenses, i know some retires living in kampot on $500/month; $100 room, $.50 beers starting at 10 am, local dishes at $2-3 each in bed by 7pm when the beers go to $1.
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I am moving (back) to Cambodia soon and it looks like decent accommodation will take a large chunk. Most places I have been offered so far are $1,500 and above. Expensive considering I am currently in a 4-bedrooms house for a paltry $350, including all expenses.
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Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
Actually looking for a 3-bedroom apartment or house. I have been offered cheaper lodgings too but they all looked rough so far or are in a crappy neighbourhood.ExPenhMan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:27 pmAm I correct in assuming you're looking for a multi-bedroom house in a borey? If not, please explain a bit. I ask because that US$1500/month is a scary figure. So isn't the US$800/month (30,000 baht) for western style condo apartment in Phnom Penh that another poster mentioned. This amount would get you a pretty damn nice, spacious apartment in Bangkok. A friend pays this for a 120 sq m beauty on a very nice soi off Sukhumvit.hanno wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:17 amSounds like a whale of a timephuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:07 am As to expenses, i know some retires living in kampot on $500/month; $100 room, $.50 beers starting at 10 am, local dishes at $2-3 each in bed by 7pm when the beers go to $1.
walk or bicycle
I am moving (back) to Cambodia soon and it looks like decent accommodation will take a large chunk. Most places I have been offered so far are $1,500 and above. Expensive considering I am currently in a 4-bedrooms house for a paltry $350, including all expenses.
Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
We're aiming for no more than 700 for an apartment I think. Not crazy drinkers, although social aspect is really important But I like, and prefer, to cook at home, so not worried about eating out more than once a week really. I'd love to travel to Thailand/Vietnam occasionally tho...Bluenose wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:52 pm If you move away from the centre/expat areas then there is no need to spend $800 for an apartment, I have a very nice 100 sqm place for $450 plus maybe $60 for electricity. If you mainly cook at home or don't go drinking in Western bars every night then you certainly don't need $50 a day, but if that's what you want to do then you will need a bit extra.
Is border-hopping for a weekend a thing? And if so, is it an affordable thing?
Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
Not really. Distances are not that large but traveling in Cambodia takes quite some time making it hard as a 2-3 day trip. Flights to neighboring countries are relatively expensive but are much more convenient.Monica wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:36 pmWe're aiming for no more than 700 for an apartment I think. Not crazy drinkers, although social aspect is really important But I like, and prefer, to cook at home, so not worried about eating out more than once a week really. I'd love to travel to Thailand/Vietnam occasionally tho...Bluenose wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:52 pm If you move away from the centre/expat areas then there is no need to spend $800 for an apartment, I have a very nice 100 sqm place for $450 plus maybe $60 for electricity. If you mainly cook at home or don't go drinking in Western bars every night then you certainly don't need $50 a day, but if that's what you want to do then you will need a bit extra.
Is border-hopping for a weekend a thing? And if so, is it an affordable thing?
Quite a bit to explore in-country as well.
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Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
I would argue that the flights have always been relatively cheap. You were able buy return flight to pretty much any capital city in SEA for under $150 before. Now more like $200 but flight prices around the world have went up, so I would consider that still cheap for 1-2 hours international flights. One can found still flights to Bangkok for under $100.Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:47 pmNot really. Distances are not that large but traveling in Cambodia takes quite some time making it hard as a 2-3 day trip. Flights to neighboring countries are relatively expensive but are much more convenient.Monica wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:36 pmWe're aiming for no more than 700 for an apartment I think. Not crazy drinkers, although social aspect is really important But I like, and prefer, to cook at home, so not worried about eating out more than once a week really. I'd love to travel to Thailand/Vietnam occasionally tho...Bluenose wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:52 pm If you move away from the centre/expat areas then there is no need to spend $800 for an apartment, I have a very nice 100 sqm place for $450 plus maybe $60 for electricity. If you mainly cook at home or don't go drinking in Western bars every night then you certainly don't need $50 a day, but if that's what you want to do then you will need a bit extra.
Is border-hopping for a weekend a thing? And if so, is it an affordable thing?
Quite a bit to explore in-country as well.
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Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
Then anywhere between $750-$1000 should be enough per month. You can spend a lot more if you want but by no means do you have to.Monica wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:36 pmWe're aiming for no more than 700 for an apartment I think. Not crazy drinkers, although social aspect is really important But I like, and prefer, to cook at home, so not worried about eating out more than once a week really. I'd love to travel to Thailand/Vietnam occasionally tho...Bluenose wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:52 pm If you move away from the centre/expat areas then there is no need to spend $800 for an apartment, I have a very nice 100 sqm place for $450 plus maybe $60 for electricity. If you mainly cook at home or don't go drinking in Western bars every night then you certainly don't need $50 a day, but if that's what you want to do then you will need a bit extra.
Is border-hopping for a weekend a thing? And if so, is it an affordable thing?
I spend on average around $450 per month excluding rent (but including electricity, tuk-tuks, food & drink etc). Could spend more, could spend less. I live comfortably on that amount, eat out around dinner per week and a few lunches per week as prefer cooking at home.
Although I would say as a couple you want to be earning at least $2/3k per month, you need some rainy day/future money, and in the $450 I am not including holidays. I choose to spend less, not sure I would enjoy having to.
Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
Yeh, we're really considering PP because of the slightly higher teaching salaries. And the access to more modern (?) amenities. It'll be 50/50 hopefully, but if visa things don't work out for me as a digital nomad, I don't mind looking for a teaching position on the ground there. We both have teaching experience, and enjoyed it.IraHayes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:23 pmKampot, or Kep, could work for them if her partners income is treated as a sort of "bonus" as any teaching jobs there would likely pay less than in Phnom Penh.
If the OPs income is not reliable/fixed and her partners income would be the main source of income, with it being a fixed monthly salary, then PP would be the obvious choice.
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If you happen to be married, then the visa shouldn't be a problem.Monica wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:03 pmYeh, we're really considering PP because of the slightly higher teaching salaries. And the access to more modern (?) amenities. It'll be 50/50 hopefully, but if visa things don't work out for me as a digital nomad, I don't mind looking for a teaching position on the ground there. We both have teaching experience, and enjoyed it.IraHayes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:23 pmKampot, or Kep, could work for them if her partners income is treated as a sort of "bonus" as any teaching jobs there would likely pay less than in Phnom Penh.
If the OPs income is not reliable/fixed and her partners income would be the main source of income, with it being a fixed monthly salary, then PP would be the obvious choice.
I would say Siem Reap has same modern amenities what Phnom Penh have too. Just smaller and less hectic city, except during holidays when +100k locals come and visit the town.
Rents cheaper in Siem Reap too.
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Re: How liveable is Cambodia?
Air asia for next weekrogerrabbit wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:59 pmI would argue that the flights have always been relatively cheap. You were able buy return flight to pretty much any capital city in SEA for under $150 before. Now more like $200 but flight prices around the world have went up, so I would consider that still cheap for 1-2 hours international flights. One can found still flights to Bangkok for under $100.Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:47 pmNot really. Distances are not that large but traveling in Cambodia takes quite some time making it hard as a 2-3 day trip. Flights to neighboring countries are relatively expensive but are much more convenient.Monica wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:36 pmWe're aiming for no more than 700 for an apartment I think. Not crazy drinkers, although social aspect is really important But I like, and prefer, to cook at home, so not worried about eating out more than once a week really. I'd love to travel to Thailand/Vietnam occasionally tho...Bluenose wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:52 pm If you move away from the centre/expat areas then there is no need to spend $800 for an apartment, I have a very nice 100 sqm place for $450 plus maybe $60 for electricity. If you mainly cook at home or don't go drinking in Western bars every night then you certainly don't need $50 a day, but if that's what you want to do then you will need a bit extra.
Is border-hopping for a weekend a thing? And if so, is it an affordable thing?
Quite a bit to explore in-country as well.
flights to Bangkok r $62 each way> 45 day visa exempt
flight all the way to to Phuket is only $97 via Bangkok
PP- Singapore $82 each way ( no visa)
PP- Saigon $104 each way
PP- Bali via KL $144 each way ( visa free for short stay)
Overland to Thailand with a visa exempt entry is free 2x/year
Laos $40 voa
Vientam- dont know the visa costs
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