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Re: Bringing prescribtion meds into Cambodia -HOW?

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the requirements depend a lot on your travel route as you will probably not use a direct flight to Cambodia from your departure country. Avoid any petrol country as a stopver.
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Anchor Moy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:27 pm A friend who came to see me in Cambodia takes morphine daily - brought the drugs in the original packaging and copies of the doctor's prescription - there was no problem.
And no, have never heard of Cambodian customs going through your medications on arrival, but other countries do.

Tank you very much!!! This is helpful!!
So if you have never heard of Cambodian custums going through medications on arrival, that does mean that your friend did not need to declare the meds or show the prescribtions to customs officers? Or did he declare them? Or show them the prescribtion on arrival? I´m sorry to bother you, but I want to double check this. Thank you.
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Bluenose wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:45 am As a slight sideline suggestion to the OP, is there is any risk of an escalation of the existing condition requiring these meds that might require emergency or in/outpatient treatment here? If yes, then be warned that if the treatment you need is in any way specialised then you may have problems, especially outside of Phnom Penh. Whatever treatment is available, you won't get any until you have paid in advance or satisfied the treatment provider that they will get paid through your insurance.

From the original post, you seem to have looked into this, so apologies if to you I'm stating the obvious, but best to be warned
No, there is not. And yes I have thought about that. But thank you.
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Freightdog wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:43 am You have a very English username, an Austrian flag on your profile, and give vague reference to Europe. This may be a good time to give some clarification for the quite broad cross section of members, one of whom may be able to give you specific answers.

For myself, having encountered passengers with long lists of medication or medical issues, and embarking on international travel, I offer this as a rough outline-

Your own GP and associated health authority are a good place to start.
What is the duration of your visit? Arrival and departure dates, or anticipated dates.
What medical condition is this? Be aware that if the medication is part of a control of an addiction issue, that may be disqualifying.
What medicines are required, the prescribed dosage, and quantities to be carried to cover what duration. Are those medications available in Cambodia?
You probably don’t need to be specific about all of those details, here, as that is private to you.

All detailed in an official doctors letter, with clear details, and any follow up care required.

Yes, some countries have very tight controls regarding transporting medicines. Mainly, painkillers, IIRC. Often, though, people run into problems because of the quantities in their possession, and having no corroborating information about why.

If your only source of information so far is anecdotal off the internet, be aware that passenger/tourist accounts of the difficulties they encounter are often incomplete.

I am Austrian, but with an english username. And Austria is still in Europe. Maybe clering that up will help.
If anyone needs to know anything specific, in order to be able to help. Just ask.
I know when, how long, etc.. Also my doctor should know. And probably all of that(and maybe more) will go in that doctor´s letter.

Your rough outline on how to proceed is pretty much in line with what the Austrian ministry of health and foreign ministry, as well as the US´CDC say.

Your flag is Irish, but "God save the King" is your motto. That´s also a bit confusing.

Thank you for your advice! Your reply was informative and very helpful!
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truffledog wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:52 pm the requirements depend a lot on your travel route as you will probably not use a direct flight to Cambodia from your departure country. Avoid any petrol country as a stopver.

There will be 1 stop, that is Bangkok. I can handle that. Do you know about cambodia? Cambodian laws when it comes to this topic? Do you have experiences? Does Cambodian customs check the bags on arrival?
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TimDrake wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:21 pm
Freightdog wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:43 am You have a very English username, an Austrian flag on your profile, and give vague reference to Europe. This may be a good time to give some clarification for the quite broad cross section of members, one of whom may be able to give you specific answers.

For myself, having encountered passengers with long lists of medication or medical issues, and embarking on international travel, I offer this as a rough outline-

Your own GP and associated health authority are a good place to start.
What is the duration of your visit? Arrival and departure dates, or anticipated dates.
What medical condition is this? Be aware that if the medication is part of a control of an addiction issue, that may be disqualifying.
What medicines are required, the prescribed dosage, and quantities to be carried to cover what duration. Are those medications available in Cambodia?
You probably don’t need to be specific about all of those details, here, as that is private to you.

All detailed in an official doctors letter, with clear details, and any follow up care required.

Yes, some countries have very tight controls regarding transporting medicines. Mainly, painkillers, IIRC. Often, though, people run into problems because of the quantities in their possession, and having no corroborating information about why.

If your only source of information so far is anecdotal off the internet, be aware that passenger/tourist accounts of the difficulties they encounter are often incomplete.

I am Austrian, but with an english username. And Austria is still in Europe. Maybe clering that up will help.
If anyone needs to know anything specific, in order to be able to help. Just ask.
I know when, how long, etc.. Also my doctor should know. And probably all of that(and maybe more) will go in that doctor´s letter.

Your rough outline on how to proceed is pretty much in line with what the Austrian ministry of health and foreign ministry, as well as the US´CDC say.

Your flag is Irish, but "God save the King" is your motto. That´s also a bit confusing.

Thank you for your advice! Your reply was informative and very helpful!
My flag is Irish- I have dual nationality and have both passports- Irish and British. And irrelevant to your case.

Austrian Flag, ‘English’ name and a ‘European’ location are relevant, because Cambodia may not have an embassy in a convenient location for you, and embassies and staff in different countries provide a very inconsistent service, as demonstrated several times in the past 2 years. The Cambodian office in the UK has been quite appalling at times. Had you needed to use the embassy in the UK for instance, I’d suggest that your trip to Cambodia may not happen for many more months.
The UK foreign office, as do several other countries it seems, provide very generic one size fits all guidance, quite often missing very useful detail about specific circumstances. A précis at best. Medical services do tend to be much more specific in my experience, and have a better understanding of the intricacies involved in their speciality, and across borders, and details of who to contact. Sometimes.


I’ll add-
I do carry medicine with me. Nothing risky, and I take a chance in not carrying any documents. It remains in its original packaging, in checked baggage. I’m fairly certain that on at least one occasion, my case was opened, and that packaging inspected.
I’m aware of occasions where passengers were carrying medicines with them on a flight, and those medicines were in hand luggage, with medical declarations. This was a while ago- the rules and procedures may have altered significantly.
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Freightdog wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:03 pm
TimDrake wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:21 pm
Freightdog wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:43 am You have a very English username, an Austrian flag on your profile, and give vague reference to Europe. This may be a good time to give some clarification for the quite broad cross section of members, one of whom may be able to give you specific answers.

For myself, having encountered passengers with long lists of medication or medical issues, and embarking on international travel, I offer this as a rough outline-

Your own GP and associated health authority are a good place to start.
What is the duration of your visit? Arrival and departure dates, or anticipated dates.
What medical condition is this? Be aware that if the medication is part of a control of an addiction issue, that may be disqualifying.
What medicines are required, the prescribed dosage, and quantities to be carried to cover what duration. Are those medications available in Cambodia?
You probably don’t need to be specific about all of those details, here, as that is private to you.

All detailed in an official doctors letter, with clear details, and any follow up care required.

Yes, some countries have very tight controls regarding transporting medicines. Mainly, painkillers, IIRC. Often, though, people run into problems because of the quantities in their possession, and having no corroborating information about why.

If your only source of information so far is anecdotal off the internet, be aware that passenger/tourist accounts of the difficulties they encounter are often incomplete.

I am Austrian, but with an english username. And Austria is still in Europe. Maybe clering that up will help.
If anyone needs to know anything specific, in order to be able to help. Just ask.
I know when, how long, etc.. Also my doctor should know. And probably all of that(and maybe more) will go in that doctor´s letter.

Your rough outline on how to proceed is pretty much in line with what the Austrian ministry of health and foreign ministry, as well as the US´CDC say.

Your flag is Irish, but "God save the King" is your motto. That´s also a bit confusing.

Thank you for your advice! Your reply was informative and very helpful!
My flag is Irish- I have dual nationality and have both passports- Irish and British. And irrelevant to your case.

Austrian Flag, ‘English’ name and a ‘European’ location are relevant, because Cambodia may not have an embassy in a convenient location for you, and embassies and staff in different countries provide a very inconsistent service, as demonstrated several times in the past 2 years. The Cambodian office in the UK has been quite appalling at times. Had you needed to use the embassy in the UK for instance, I’d suggest that your trip to Cambodia may not happen for many more months.
The UK foreign office, as do several other countries it seems, provide very generic one size fits all guidance, quite often missing very useful detail about specific circumstances. A précis at best. Medical services do tend to be much more specific in my experience, and have a better understanding of the intricacies involved in their speciality, and across borders, and details of who to contact. Sometimes.


No need to explain yourself. That comment was unnessary on my part. And probably based on prejudice.

I do understand know, why it is relevant to clear up where i am from, etc.. The Cambodian embassy in Brussels, Belgium is responsible for Austrians. And it seems they are pretty much the same as what you described for the UK embassy. Never picking up the phone and giving very generalised answers. I do not know if they will be of much help.

I am thinking about writing e-mails to the Cambodian Ministry of Health. And if they don´t respond, maybe to GDCE (Cambodian customs). But I am reluctant to do so, because I am not sure if that would make things better or worse. I will continue to research. And will make an appointment with my GP doctor. I have an appointment with a specialised doctor on the second of Nov. If they cannot help me, then I will contact the MoH and GDCE. I think that´s how I will proceed.
Hopefully everything clears up and becomes easy, or at least possible, before I try to contact authorities whom I don´t know much about in a country whose governmental and buearocratic workings I know even less about.

"Medical services do tend to be much more specific in my experience, and have a better understanding of the intricacies involved in their speciality, and across borders, and details of who to contact. Sometimes."
As you may have guessed by now, my native language is not english. With medical services, do you mean my GP, the corresponding health authority and so on?
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TimDrake wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:21 pm "Medical services do tend to be much more specific in my experience, and have a better understanding of the intricacies involved in their speciality, and across borders, and details of who to contact. Sometimes."
As you may have guessed by now, my native language is not english. With medical services, do you mean my GP, the corresponding health authority and so on?
Primarily, the national health authority, but also your GP.

Your GP may not know the answer, but should be able to direct you to the departments that do.
The Health authority will/should also have contacts internationally- tropical diseases, for instance. Again, they may be able to direct you to the correct people to contact, if there is no clearly defined procedure already in place.

In the past, some better airlines also had substantial information for travel advice, but I can’t vouch for this, now. The outfits that I’ve worked for in recent years- some had difficulty reading a bus timetable.
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TimDrake wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:03 pm
Anchor Moy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:27 pm A friend who came to see me in Cambodia takes morphine daily - brought the drugs in the original packaging and copies of the doctor's prescription - there was no problem.
And no, have never heard of Cambodian customs going through your medications on arrival, but other countries do.

Tank you very much!!! This is helpful!!
So if you have never heard of Cambodian custums going through medications on arrival, that does mean that your friend did not need to declare the meds or show the prescribtions to customs officers? Or did he declare them? Or show them the prescribtion on arrival? I´m sorry to bother you, but I want to double check this. Thank you.
Friend just walked through. I wouldn't over-think this. Just pick up your bag, hand in your customs form - Nothing to Declare, and walk out. Carry your prescriptions and keep them handy in case you get asked, but I wouldn't go and show them unless you are asked. And it's very unusual to get stopped, searched, or questioned by customs officers on arrival to Cambodia, unless of course you have been signaled as a likely drug mule or are wanted by Interpol etc.
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Anchor Moy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:44 pm
TimDrake wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:03 pm
Anchor Moy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:27 pm A friend who came to see me in Cambodia takes morphine daily - brought the drugs in the original packaging and copies of the doctor's prescription - there was no problem.
And no, have never heard of Cambodian customs going through your medications on arrival, but other countries do.

Tank you very much!!! This is helpful!!
So if you have never heard of Cambodian custums going through medications on arrival, that does mean that your friend did not need to declare the meds or show the prescribtions to customs officers? Or did he declare them? Or show them the prescribtion on arrival? I´m sorry to bother you, but I want to double check this. Thank you.
Friend just walked through. I wouldn't over-think this. Just pick up your bag, hand in your customs form - Nothing to Declare, and walk out. Carry your prescriptions and keep them handy in case you get asked, but I wouldn't go and show them unless you are asked. And it's very unusual to get stopped, searched, or questioned by customs officers on arrival to Cambodia, unless of course you have been signaled as a likely drug mule or are wanted by Interpol etc.

Thanks very much!
I think that "overthinking" is the real problem here.
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