Does 'barang/farang' have a negative connotation? What would be equivalent terms in English?

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Does 'barang/farang' have a negative connotation? What would be equivalent terms in English?

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Does 'barang/farang' have a negative connotation? What would be equivalent terms in English?
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Yes, no, maybe so... depends on the context

An equivalent term might be "whitey" or "the white guy/gal".
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sigmoid wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:28 pm depends on the context
Could you elaborate on this please
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JJJJS wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:24 pm Does 'barang/farang' have a negative connotation? What would be equivalent terms in English?
I hate the word "farang" - but luckily I don't live in Thailand so rarely hear it

Barang basically means "French" but has become co-opted as a word for a "westerner". There typically isn't a negative connotation but depending on the context it could be used negatively; tone says a lot

I sometimes correct people and tell them that I am not French, so not barang; I am boratey
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No negative connotations. It simply means foreigner.
If they are angry with you and refer to you as barang/farang, it still means foreigner (but said in anger).
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Username Taken wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:38 pm No negative connotations. It simply means foreigner.
If they are angry with you and refer to you as barang/farang, it still means foreigner (but said in anger).
It's a specific kind of foreigner. Many foreigners (Vietnamese, Chinese, Laotians, Thai, Koreans, Indians, Malaysians, Japanese etc etc) are never called 'Barang / Farang'.
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Jerry Atrick wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:37 pm I sometimes correct people and tell them that I am not French, so not barang; I am boratey
Haha, I do exactly the same.
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:48 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:37 pm I sometimes correct people and tell them that I am not French, so not barang; I am boratey
Haha, I do exactly the same.
What does boratey mean?
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@JJJJS, means foreigner.
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So boratey = foreigner, barang/farang means 'white French foreigner' and there's definitely no negative connotations in the usage of the latter, ever. Glad that's all cleared up.
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