Opinions, strong opinions, and bigotry

Big Daikon · Post by **Big Daikon** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:10 am

hdgh29 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:24 am
Big Daikon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:17 pm A discussion about opinions and bigotry winds up talking about ladyboys. Nice one, boys!
Why not? Its a discussion forum and the rules don't say you have to stick to the topic. As they say, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

Actually, discussions that go too far off topic can be a problem. I can see a connection to opinions, bigotry, ladyboys and assholes.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:55 pm

hdgh29 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:12 pm The term Woke has been in use since the 1970's, by African Americans to convey a realisation of their status in US society, and how they should react to oppression. The phrase was first used in a 1971 play by American playwright Barry Beckham titled Garvey Lives!, in which he wrote: “I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr Garvey done woke me up, I’m gon’ stay woke. And I’m gon’ help him wake up other black folk.” Referring to the activist Marcus Garvey, with whom you are all no doubt familiar. In recent years it has been weaponised as an insult by right wing reactionaries to describe any neo-liberal or left wing attempts at asserting the rights of the underdog classes in society, ranging from LGBTQ to Black LIves Matter to even veganism. As for ladyboys in SE ASia, they do have some back in NZ, mainly big butt-ugly Polynesian 'fa'a fine', a culture in which it is acceptable for men to decide to be women. Even if they still look like front-row forwards.

Oh please send us some photos, just what we all need as we nurse our Saturday hangovers.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:03 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:17 pm A discussion about opinions and bigotry winds up talking about ladyboys. Nice one, boys!

Sexist!!

You need to go on a gender awareness course immediately.

Chad Sexington · Post by **Chad Sexington** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:34 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:03 pm
Big Daikon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:17 pm A discussion about opinions and bigotry winds up talking about ladyboys. Nice one, boys!
Sexist!!

You need to go on a gender awareness course immediately.

Did he just assume our genders? Rheeeeeeeeh!

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:36 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:23 pm
CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:22 pm I guess as it doesn’t happen in Holland it doesn’t happen .... I concede the floor to you and John B as you’re only focused in Holland and he resents anything not Cambodia centric .... welcome to this discussion my myopic fellow posters, it’s always my displeasure to engage you both.
One thing that popped my head after reading @Random dude's post is that I am not on Twitter and not on FB. Maybe that makes a difference in how I experience it too?

Maybe I'm just lucky enough not to mingle with the really woke types so don't have a finger on the pulse, it's very possible I suppose but I think a lot of it does come from social media, Hollywood gossip etc.

A few people around me are always going on about transgenders in sports and taking over bathrooms, people with weird pronouns, communists and Muslims taking over the world etc but I doubt they've ever even seen a transgender person, their lives certainly aren't being impacted in any way by them and it's unlikely they ever will be. Same with Muslims and commies. I do know they spend a lot of time following YouTube and Telegram channels that seem to exist just to stir people up though, and little to no time in the real world. The woke crap they're so angry about just doesn't exist (outside of TV, the internet) where they are.

Post by **Username Taken** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:08 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:55 pm
hdgh29 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:12 pm The term Woke has been in use since the 1970's, by African Americans to convey a realisation of their status in US society, and how they should react to oppression. The phrase was first used in a 1971 play by American playwright Barry Beckham titled Garvey Lives!, in which he wrote: “I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr Garvey done woke me up, I’m gon’ stay woke. And I’m gon’ help him wake up other black folk.” Referring to the activist Marcus Garvey, with whom you are all no doubt familiar. In recent years it has been weaponised as an insult by right wing reactionaries to describe any neo-liberal or left wing attempts at asserting the rights of the underdog classes in society, ranging from LGBTQ to Black LIves Matter to even veganism. As for ladyboys in SE ASia, they do have some back in NZ, mainly big butt-ugly Polynesian 'fa'a fine', a culture in which it is acceptable for men to decide to be women. Even if they still look like front-row forwards.
Oh please send us some photos, just what we all need as we nurse our Saturday hangovers.

cute, na?

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:11 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:08 pm
Doc67 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:55 pm
hdgh29 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:12 pm The term Woke has been in use since the 1970's, by African Americans to convey a realisation of their status in US society, and how they should react to oppression. The phrase was first used in a 1971 play by American playwright Barry Beckham titled Garvey Lives!, in which he wrote: “I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr Garvey done woke me up, I’m gon’ stay woke. And I’m gon’ help him wake up other black folk.” Referring to the activist Marcus Garvey, with whom you are all no doubt familiar. In recent years it has been weaponised as an insult by right wing reactionaries to describe any neo-liberal or left wing attempts at asserting the rights of the underdog classes in society, ranging from LGBTQ to Black LIves Matter to even veganism. As for ladyboys in SE ASia, they do have some back in NZ, mainly big butt-ugly Polynesian 'fa'a fine', a culture in which it is acceptable for men to decide to be women. Even if they still look like front-row forwards.
Oh please send us some photos, just what we all need as we nurse our Saturday hangovers.
cute, na?

I'd love to see a homophobe give them a hard time!

SlowJoe · Post by **SlowJoe** » Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:29 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:08 pm
cute, na?

I remember growing up as a young child and there were two very obviously men doing the whole drag queen thing (this was in an American Samoan community) but the thing is no one really gave a shit. They didn't beg for attention or whatever, and we didn't pander to them. Both of them where HUGE as well, like 200+ kg. Way bigger than the average "big boi".

I forgot his real name, but all he was to us was "Uncle Gay Boy" and that was him or her or whatever. Fa'afafine they was (same as the Maori term?) and that was that. Damn it, now I talk like dem again just tinking about it.

hdgh29 · Post by **hdgh29** » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:19 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:08 pm
Doc67 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:55 pm
hdgh29 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:12 pm The term Woke has been in use since the 1970's, by African Americans to convey a realisation of their status in US society, and how they should react to oppression. The phrase was first used in a 1971 play by American playwright Barry Beckham titled Garvey Lives!, in which he wrote: “I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr Garvey done woke me up, I’m gon’ stay woke. And I’m gon’ help him wake up other black folk.” Referring to the activist Marcus Garvey, with whom you are all no doubt familiar. In recent years it has been weaponised as an insult by right wing reactionaries to describe any neo-liberal or left wing attempts at asserting the rights of the underdog classes in society, ranging from LGBTQ to Black LIves Matter to even veganism. As for ladyboys in SE ASia, they do have some back in NZ, mainly big butt-ugly Polynesian 'fa'a fine', a culture in which it is acceptable for men to decide to be women. Even if they still look like front-row forwards.
Oh please send us some photos, just what we all need as we nurse our Saturday hangovers.
cute, na?

Late night on Karangahape Road, stumbling drunk out of the Pink Pussycat club, Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
(probably have to be a kiwi JAFA to get that)

atst · Post by **atst** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:01 am

The best interview on this topic I've ever seen.

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