Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:59 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm The stance he took against the Sandy Hook thing is pretty reprehensible tbf; I remember hearing about it (feels like it was over a decade ago, idk)

I also thought that he was already in court over this stuff back then too and it was done with

Presumably he won't pay the money and will just file for bankruptcy or has done so already

Yes, the Sandy Hook Shooting was in 2012.

In fact, the timing on this is a bit suspicious to me. Why now? Why 10 years later?

PS-I am not a fan of Alex Jones.

It probably just took this long for it to finally happen.

Lawsuits can be lengthy, I doubt the process started a couple of months ago. Throw in the fact that the parents were probably in no condition to even talk about it for a couple of years at least, let alone think about fighting back.

If you have the money you can afford to pay lawyers to drag it out for years hoping the other side won't be able to afford to continue, it's how big corporations beat small business people or someone who got cancer from their product. A millionaire (Jones) can do that.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:30 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:59 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm The stance he took against the Sandy Hook thing is pretty reprehensible tbf; I remember hearing about it (feels like it was over a decade ago, idk)

I also thought that he was already in court over this stuff back then too and it was done with

Presumably he won't pay the money and will just file for bankruptcy or has done so already

Yes, the Sandy Hook Shooting was in 2012.

In fact, the timing on this is a bit suspicious to me. Why now? Why 10 years later?

PS-I am not a fan of Alex Jones.

It took well over 4 years just in court....

Thanks, but doesn't really settle anything. The Powers That Be let Mr. Jones do his thing for years. After he jumped on the Trump Train (and became slightly more coherent), the troubles began.

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:30 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:59 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm The stance he took against the Sandy Hook thing is pretty reprehensible tbf; I remember hearing about it (feels like it was over a decade ago, idk)

I also thought that he was already in court over this stuff back then too and it was done with

Presumably he won't pay the money and will just file for bankruptcy or has done so already

Yes, the Sandy Hook Shooting was in 2012.

In fact, the timing on this is a bit suspicious to me. Why now? Why 10 years later?

PS-I am not a fan of Alex Jones.

It took well over 4 years just in court....

Thanks, but doesn't really settle anything. The Powers That Be let Mr. Jones do his thing for years. After he jumped on the Trump Train (and became slightly more coherent), the troubles began.

Who are the powers that be? The parents involved in the lawsuit? What were they supposed to do? Interfere with the normal legal process to speed it up somehow?

Random Dude wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:50 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:30 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:59 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm The stance he took against the Sandy Hook thing is pretty reprehensible tbf; I remember hearing about it (feels like it was over a decade ago, idk)

I also thought that he was already in court over this stuff back then too and it was done with

Presumably he won't pay the money and will just file for bankruptcy or has done so already

Yes, the Sandy Hook Shooting was in 2012.

In fact, the timing on this is a bit suspicious to me. Why now? Why 10 years later?

PS-I am not a fan of Alex Jones.

It took well over 4 years just in court....

Thanks, but doesn't really settle anything. The Powers That Be let Mr. Jones do his thing for years. After he jumped on the Trump Train (and became slightly more coherent), the troubles began.

Who are the powers that be? The parents involved in the lawsuit? What were they supposed to do? Interfere with the normal legal process to speed it up somehow?

I was speaking of the legal/political system that went after Dr. Jones. The parents are pawns, ultimately.

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:16 pm

Random Dude wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:50 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:30 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:59 pm

Yes, the Sandy Hook Shooting was in 2012.

In fact, the timing on this is a bit suspicious to me. Why now? Why 10 years later?

PS-I am not a fan of Alex Jones.

It took well over 4 years just in court....

Thanks, but doesn't really settle anything. The Powers That Be let Mr. Jones do his thing for years. After he jumped on the Trump Train (and became slightly more coherent), the troubles began.

Who are the powers that be? The parents involved in the lawsuit? What were they supposed to do? Interfere with the normal legal process to speed it up somehow?

I was speaking of the legal/political system that went after Dr. Jones. The parents are pawns, ultimately.

That sounds like a lot of speculation to me. Two things jump to my mind almost immediately.

1. It would be very hard to get grieving parents onboard unless they're ready, and wanting to fight back.

2. 'If' the legal/political system has decided to put a stop to idiots like Jones spreading blatant bullshit and stirring shit that wouldn't be such a bad thing. If they have a genuine allegation, back it up with facts like everyone else has to. If they can't and they're just shit stirring for money or political reasons, fuck them.

Random Dude wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:35 pm That sounds like a lot of speculation to me. Two things jump to my mind almost immediately.

1. It would be very hard to get grieving parents onboard unless they're ready, and wanting to fight back.

2. 'If' the legal/political system has decided to put a stop to idiots like Jones spreading blatant bullshit and stirring shit that wouldn't be such a bad thing. If they have a genuine allegation, back it up with facts like everyone else has to. If they can't and they're just shit stirring for money or political reasons, fuck them.

Not speculating, but observing.

Jones has been doing his crazy act for years. He didn't get kicked off of Twitter and the like until 2018. Yes, lawsuits can sometimes take years and I understand why parents are upset at Jones' comments, but it takes money and power (attorneys, etc.) to make that stuff happen.

Again, I am not a fan of Alex Jones. In fact, I think he does a great disservice to sincere right-wing activism (gun rights, for example) by bringing up batshit explanations. Also, if we look at the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church, there is a legal precedent set that provocative or offensive statements can still be considered legally protected speech.

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:37 pm

Random Dude wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:35 pm That sounds like a lot of speculation to me. Two things jump to my mind almost immediately.

1. It would be very hard to get grieving parents onboard unless they're ready, and wanting to fight back.

2. 'If' the legal/political system has decided to put a stop to idiots like Jones spreading blatant bullshit and stirring shit that wouldn't be such a bad thing. If they have a genuine allegation, back it up with facts like everyone else has to. If they can't and they're just shit stirring for money or political reasons, fuck them.

Not speculating, but observing.

Jones has been doing his crazy act for years. He didn't get kicked off of Twitter and the like until 2018. Yes, lawsuits can sometimes take years and I understand why parents are upset at Jones' comments, but it takes money and power (attorneys, etc.) to make that stuff happen.

Again, I am not a fan of Alex Jones. In fact, I think he does a great disservice to sincere right-wing activism (gun rights, for example) by bringing up batshit explanations. Also, if we look at the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church, there is a legal precedent set that provocative or offensive statements can still be considered legally protected speech.

It just sounds like a culmination of normal events happening to me.
When he was just a boob on the internet talking conspiracy theories nobody gave a shit, he was just entertainment for simple minds. He was to news what the WWF is to sports, a parody of the real thing.
But then he started harming people, attacking the parents of murdered kids, when you do that there are always going to be consequences, and it draws attention. People fight back.

" it takes money and power (attorneys, etc.) to make that stuff happen. "

The parents were probably approached by lawyers telling them they had a real case if and when they were ready to go ahead with it - almost certain win, X percent of the settlement going back to the lawyers, no money required from the parents type deal. Just like the ambulance chasing type lawyers but higher up the food chain. Eventually, they got over their grief to the point where they wanted to fight back so they called the number on one of the ten or so cards they were given, and here we are.