John Bingham wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:47 am How is it a swipe? It's just an unpalatable truth for many. Maybe it doesn't get much coverage on Fox because they are too busy making up garbage about pizzagate. Here you go: https://deliverfund.org/facts-about-hum ... in-the-us/

Gosh, you are really punchy. Fox? Pizzagate? And that stuff is relevant to who?

This post starts off about the US State Dept. naming states on their Blacklist for trafficking then the thread digresses (via the replies here) and implies that the US State Dept. is into trafficking humans and, speaking of palatable truths maybe the State Dept does list states for political reasons and maybe that is the prerogative of the State Dept. and not for Johnny Lunchbox Ex Pat come lately from Phnom Penh.

As per Deliver Fund thank you for hipping me up to them- they seem like a fine organization and they have a mission that is being accomplished everyday based on my cursory research.

Let me sign off with this though once more, no governmental unit attached to the United States has been involved with human trafficking nor do those organizations moralize onto others hypocritically. Any lists the State Dept. compiles and publishes are lists that are made with political influence and motive. A little dose of American Exceptionalism may be required to digest these truths, take a dose for best results.

Does Russia counts when they send soldiers to "military manoeuvers" but they finally end up fighting in Ukrain without being asked to ?
Does Libya counts when it's a hub for migrants who are willingly moving to Europe ? (errmmm...as France could be for UK migrants)
Will countries impacting neighbor's water ressources, therefore provoking mass migrations, be considered as such ?
What about some very Muslim countries with the male absolute authority requested to allow their wives going here and there alone ?
Is being slowly absorbed by another country without even moving could be considered similar in any way ?

More of some genuine technical questions than cynicism (but still a bit though), people are unwillingly displaced for so many reasons, since ever...

Trafficking in persons violates the rights of all people to be free: free to do what you want, be who you want, make the life that you wish.

Another highly paid government official providing another show of lavish comfort to earn cheap points as a hero of our future better-for-all world. I wish people who do this all the luck in their list building, it takes me to a place where I would like to believe that taxes are good for the best of humanity.

How about this article in KT

"the not smart way to use a handphone' good grief.

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501116676/ ... pBnc8Z6Vss

Maybe try stepping away from the game of flags and down to street level for more than a few days at a time?

US Report Red Flags Scam Operations, Widespread Trafficking and Forced Labor
2 min read
Ananth Baliga
| Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:05 am
[excerpt]
The U.S. State Department has pointed to mushrooming scam operations trafficking foreign nationals into Cambodia as well as other violations involving migrant workers as it downgraded Cambodia to the lowest level possible in its Trafficking In Persons annual report.

The report, released late Tuesday, places Cambodia at Tier 3, setting up the possibility for restrictions on foreign assistance, though this is not mandatory and is a political decision in the hands of the U.S. president.

VOD has documented the trafficking, forced labor and torture of foreign nationals at scam operations across the country. The trafficked individuals are usually residents of China, Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan and Malaysia, with a few reported cases from other Asian countries.

These reports have been backed up by other international media and NGOs who have also documented these abuses

Cambodia was on the U.S. report’s Tier 2 watchlist for the last three years. Countries that show no improvement are automatically downgraded to Tier 3 after two years on the watchlist, but Cambodia received a one-year extension in 2021. The report also states that “all of Cambodia’s 25 provinces are sources for human trafficking.”

Cambodia now joins China, Macau, Vietnam, Malaysia, Myanmar, North Korea, Brunei, Syria, Afghanistan, South Sudan and 12 other states as Tier 3-listed countries.
Full article: https://vodenglish.news/us-report-red-f ... ced-labor/

Tit for Tat: The Fall-out From the US Approach to Politics and Policy in Cambodia
Washington was right to censure Phnom Penh in its latest Trafficking in Persons Report. But the U.S. government risks entangling legitimate criticism with geopolitical tensions.
By Alex Palmer
August 08, 2022

The U.S. State Department’s Annual Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report, released last month, is the premier global index on the state of human trafficking. It includes rich contextual analysis, targeted recommendations, and, notably three tiers of ranked performance for 188 countries each year. The lowest grade (Tier 3) opens the door to a wide swath of potential sanctions and penalties.

The Tier 3 downgrade for Cambodia this year came as little surprise to close observers of the situation. Equally unsurprising were the immediate cries of foul play by numerous high-ranking members of the ruling Cambodian People’s Party (CPP).

From the perspective of a civil society observer, the report’s status quo diagnosis appears closely representative of the situation on the ground. The specific recommendations in the TIP report seem well-founded and mirror closely those of years past, which remain largely unaddressed.

Thus, viewed through a technical lens, the downgrade of Cambodia to the TIP Report’s lowest level is a fairly straightforward case.

Yet, two non-mutually exclusive realities appear to be at play here. The adamant repudiation of the report’s findings and credibility by CPP spokespeople must be viewed as more than simple obfuscation or belated attempts at face-saving. While these certainly explain part of the reaction, they fail to tell the full story.

At the core of the CPP’s complaint is the idea that Cambodia’s ranking is part of a larger paternalistic policy of “punishment” for the country’s increasingly inseparable bond with China. In light of the highest profile U.S. government policy moves towards Cambodia over the past year, this argument has at least some face validity.
Full article: https://thediplomat.com/2022/08/tit-for ... -cambodia/

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:27 am I mean, it's understandable considering there are fucking ghost ships carrying folk to and from snooky from Macau, China and prob Vietnam and there's also the predilection of Malaysian housewives to casually imprison and enslave the imported domestic help.

At the same time that the US imposes this blacklisting the US also has probably more trafficked people per capita than most large nations being shuttled in endlessly - and has done forever - perhaps the USA belongs on a human trafficking blacklist too?

For one, besides the occasional ICE officer or official being bribed, the US GOVERNMENT IS NOT INVOLVED and does take steps to mitigate human trafficking. Part of the reason for the blacklist is that these countries are involved for trafficking people in and out of the US. For two, the blacklist is designed to pressure governments to take steps to mitigate it in their own countries. Finally, the US has a per capita problem because the US has higher per capita income to afford people, just like it has the higher per capita income to afford drugs. People in the US have the money to buy illegal things, so illegal things are brought to the market. It doesn't mean that the government is condoning it or turning a blind-eye.

Techietraveller84 - you’re never going to convince members who’ve made up their minds to blame the US for every evil in the world.