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Thailand will be Thailand. I’m by no means an expert concerning Thailand, but I do know one thing for sure during my travels there and keeping up with government announcements, and that is what they say they want to do one day will not be the same thing they say they want to do the next. I think sometimes that they just want to portray to the world that they are a luxury destination, which in some parts (small portion) of the country they are, but in the majority parts of the country they are not.
In my opinion the dual pricing system is what it is. Seriously, how many times can you go visit the same zoo or the same temple that charges anyway? I don’t believe it will ever effect the deals you can get online for hotel stays or any of the other necessities you will need while there.
In my opinion the dual pricing system is what it is. Seriously, how many times can you go visit the same zoo or the same temple that charges anyway? I don’t believe it will ever effect the deals you can get online for hotel stays or any of the other necessities you will need while there.
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I've only had positive reports from my friends that have been in recent years, they were doing golf with a bit of sightseeing. I was due to go for a look/see just as Covid broke out so that got cancelled unfortunately. They've gone from 8 million to 18 million tourists in the 4 years up to 2019 which is pretty impressive growth.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:51 amPeople have been saying "let's see what Vietnam does" for decades. It never does anything interesting, and very few tourists return to Vietnam. Thailand keeps shooting itself in the foot, but the local competition isn't exactly stellar at attracting tourists. I don't mind the dual pricing either, if only it were tied to residency vs nationality (especially when these countries make getting nationality virtually impossible).Cowshed Cowboy wrote:Vietnam will be the interesting one to follow in the coming few years.truffledog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:28 pmThailand needs to stay competitive or people visit Laos, Vietnam or Bali instead to name a few alternatives only. With news of blatant discrimination of highly desired foreign tourists you surely dont help to mantain a positive image. Discrimination is a very bad tool.Cowshed Cowboy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:37 am If I was in Thailand's shoes, given the state of the industry and the current rising cost of living worldwide especially travel related, I'd be at pains public relations wise to sell the country positively rather than what seems to be happening at the moment.
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Good growth, but the issue with Vietnam has always been the return rate. Up until recently, Vietnam only got a 6% returnee rate vs Thailand's 60%. Yes, you read that right. The main issue with Vietnam was always... the Vietnamese. My first trip there 13 years ago was a horrible experience, with people left and right trying to price gouge me or cheat me in some way. It was truly rampant. Aggressive sellers blocking your way and grabbing your arm, cyclo getting shouty and demanding more money after arriving at destination for a pre-agreed price, street fruit sellers... It was a truly shocking experience coming from Cambodia, where everyone was genuinely smiling and laid back. I vowed never to return despite being a short flight or bus ride away. Then five years later, I went back and it was a better experience. I've seen returned a few times (not that often) and things have admittedly gotten way better. Still, imagine you'd flown halfway around the world and get a horrible reception like that, wouldn't make you want to return, and you'd tell all your friends about it too! Thailand, for all its faults, has more to attract tourists, even though locals aren't in the "tourists are great" honeymoon stage anymore. I can still see why people go there though. It's become a famous destination. That being said, you're right that with increasing restrictions in Thailand and the general attitude of the government and locals towards tourists, a lot of long-termers and tourists are eyeing Vietnam. Same for tourists.Cowshed Cowboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:19 amI've only had positive reports from my friends that have been in recent years, they were doing golf with a bit of sightseeing. I was due to go for a look/see just as Covid broke out so that got cancelled unfortunately. They've gone from 8 million to 18 million tourists in the 4 years up to 2019 which is pretty impressive growth.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:51 amPeople have been saying "let's see what Vietnam does" for decades. It never does anything interesting, and very few tourists return to Vietnam. Thailand keeps shooting itself in the foot, but the local competition isn't exactly stellar at attracting tourists. I don't mind the dual pricing either, if only it were tied to residency vs nationality (especially when these countries make getting nationality virtually impossible).Cowshed Cowboy wrote:Vietnam will be the interesting one to follow in the coming few years.truffledog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:28 pmThailand needs to stay competitive or people visit Laos, Vietnam or Bali instead to name a few alternatives only. With news of blatant discrimination of highly desired foreign tourists you surely dont help to mantain a positive image. Discrimination is a very bad tool.Cowshed Cowboy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:37 am If I was in Thailand's shoes, given the state of the industry and the current rising cost of living worldwide especially travel related, I'd be at pains public relations wise to sell the country positively rather than what seems to be happening at the moment.
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another stupid idea shut down, makes me wonder what some people in the Thai government are smoking
https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism ... lfHw9q_dC0Many hotels have voiced their opinions over the government’s proposal to adopt dual pricing for the hospitality industry. They described the plan as “impractical” and asked that the government come up with promotions and campaigns to boost tourism instead.
A government spokeswoman said yesterday that hotels would be expected to adopt a dual pricing system where Thais would continue to get lower rates while foreign tourists would be charged pre-pandemic pricing – a two tier pricing system.
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According to the President of the Thai Hotels Association, Marisa Sukosol Nunbhakdi, the idea is unrealistic as hotel costs vary based on the state of the market.
“Hotels at each star level also apply different pricing tactics. Prices will automatically rise as demand rises to maintain the occupancy rate.”
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A representative for Sheraton Hotels, Guntapitch Rodpun, stated that international companies like Sheraton are unlikely to change their pricing policy based on the nationality of their customers unless they are ordered to do so.
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The industry telling the government yet again they know nothing about market economics. There seems to be a massive disconnect between this govt and not only its people but also the private tourism sector.
About 20 years ago I played golf at a place called Rancho Charnvee, resplendent with its own private airstrip. In the clubhouse after I got chatting to a very personable elderly Thai gentlement. I asked whether the place was owned by one of the big breweries only to be told it was a guy who had made his billions through government construction contracts.
Only recently did I realise who it was. Anutin.
About 20 years ago I played golf at a place called Rancho Charnvee, resplendent with its own private airstrip. In the clubhouse after I got chatting to a very personable elderly Thai gentlement. I asked whether the place was owned by one of the big breweries only to be told it was a guy who had made his billions through government construction contracts.
Only recently did I realise who it was. Anutin.
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There are individuals who rave about Vietnam, and myself having never been there, do they have the ability, do they have the infrastructure, to accommodate 40 million tourists a year? Also, it’s one thing to cross the border by land, but can their airports handle that kind of traffic?
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Return visitors to any county, why would you want to see the same attractions again and again, the reason Thailand has so many return visitors is the resorts beaches are cheap and of course mongering.
As for double pricing many countries do it and good on them IMO
As for double pricing many countries do it and good on them IMO
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No, but then again, 10 years ago Thailand couldn't handle 40 million tourists either. If Vietnam was hell-bent on reaching that target (and that's a big if!), I'm sure they could scale things up within 5-10 years - they have a bigger, younger and more resourceful population than Thailand has after all.Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:35 pm There are individuals who rave about Vietnam, and myself having never been there, do they have the ability, do they have the infrastructure, to accommodate 40 million tourists a year? Also, it’s one thing to cross the border by land, but can their airports handle that kind of traffic?
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I guess ur being sarcastic; Thailand beaches cheap? Not if u believe in all the postings, everyone complains how expensive they are, LOLatst wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:32 pm Return visitors to any county, why would you want to see the same attractions again and again, the reason Thailand has so many return visitors is the resorts beaches are cheap and of course mongering.
As for double pricing many countries do it and good on them IMO
The thing with Thailand is it appeals to everyone; gh's/dorms to 5 star accommodations, Islands, beaches, world class diving, sailing, golf, lots of things for families, eco-tourism, tours, shopping, festivals throughout the year, hiking, mtns, the north is fantastic for exploring.
Ahh and of course, some of the best food in the world on the streets and in fine dinning establishments
For a tourist, Thailand is very welcoming and well marketed
And the reason they keep coming back, they like it
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Can you please elaborate on what they rave about? VN is not really a popular country. It's cheap with a few scenic places. They had 18 million tourist arrivals in 2019 but mostly other Asians (Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, etc.) looking fo somewhere cheap, warm and safe.Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:35 pm There are individuals who rave about Vietnam, and myself having never been there, do they have the ability, do they have the infrastructure, to accommodate 40 million tourists a year? Also, it’s one thing to cross the border by land, but can their airports handle that kind of traffic?
Anyway, they're quite focused on infrastructure but for industry, not tourism, except for maybe domestic tourism with a population of nearly 100 million.
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