Do you support Ukraine or Russia?

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Do you support Russia or Ukraine in this conflict?

Poll ended at Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:32 pm

Russia
14
18%
Ukraine
58
73%
It's a hoax
2
3%
I don't know.
5
6%
 
Total votes: 79
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Ghostwriter wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:04 am
John Bingham wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:57 pm Someone else can do it, but the results would be very much skewed by Russian shills.
Let's do it non-anonymously then, to spot the fakies.
Technically doable ?
They’re all finger puppets of the same few time wasters, aren’t they? Or may as well be, with pretty much the same basic statements, over and over again.
I doubt they even truly believe, deep down, that Putin is right. It’s just another online distraction when they’ve lost interest in the other couple of thread topics that they frequent.
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What a bizarre situation.

Billions, billions more and and yet more billions of dollars have been ploughed into developing the most advanced nuclear technology, mainly by the USA and Russia, but they aren't the only ones, and yet time and again, we, as the human race, find that we can't or won't actually use them in times of conflict. Despite the fact that they are specifically developed only for times of conflict.

Clearly, I'm not advocating that we should, but let's just take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

Imagine trying to explain ourselves as a race to an alien third party. Seriously, how do we explain ourselves without sounding like complete, utter idiots?

The USA have recently been a lot more open about UAP's (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon- the new name for UFO's, because using the phrase UFO has too much loony connotation attached with it) which means that there is a tiny, tiny possibility that we might, might, possibly be being observed by something of extra-terrestrial origin.

Perhaps they do exist and perhaps they have come here, but are trying to work out why a species would spend so much time and effort building technologies that could only ever result in it's own destruction, a fact that the species itself is aware of, yet continues to develop but won't ever use because it's aware that to do so would result in its own destruction. Yet it continues to.....

We must be absolutely intriguing to anything with more intelligence than us in the universe.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never allow the dumb ones to lead the pack.
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this poll looks to be almost a year old. It would be interesting to redo it and see if opinions have changed any...
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Kampuchia Crumbs wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:59 am this poll looks to be almost a year old. It would be interesting to redo it and see if opinions have changed any...
Yeah thanks Captain Repeat, it has been suggested a few posts back already ^^
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Reading anew book:
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First chapter is on Putin, he advanced very fast.
Book was released in april 2022

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The odd thing about “strongman” leaders is that they are often quite weak in terms of their personal attributes and political ideas. Vladimir Putin, in power longer than most, comes across as an insecure, embittered little man, strangely marooned in a cultural time warp, whose vision of Russia’s future is propelled by a backward-looking, sentimental nostalgia for the Soviet era.

Donald Trump, by instinct a fellow authoritarian and avid Putin admirer, is notoriously thin-skinned, seemingly incapable of tolerating the slightest criticism and disproportionately vindictive towards those who challenge him. Xi Jinping, China’s ostensibly all-powerful president, exhibits similar chronic fear of dissent, as seen in his ruthless purges of the ruling Communist party and crackdowns on Hong Kong’spro-democracy activists.
so far very interesting
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xandreu wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:40 am Imagine trying to explain ourselves as a race to an alien third party. Seriously, how do we explain ourselves without sounding like complete, utter idiots?

The USA have recently been a lot more open about UAP's (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon- the new name for UFO's, because using the phrase UFO has too much loony connotation attached with it) which means that there is a tiny, tiny possibility that we might, might, possibly be being observed by something of extra-terrestrial origin.

Perhaps they do exist and perhaps they have come here, but are trying to work out why a species would spend so much time and effort building technologies that could only ever result in it's own destruction, a fact that the species itself is aware of, yet continues to develop but won't ever use because it's aware that to do so would result in its own destruction. Yet it continues to.....

We must be absolutely intriguing to anything with more intelligence than us in the universe.
There is equally the possibility that we are the more intelligent life form in existence.
Or that we are being observed to find out why our species does this thing, in the hope that the visiting species can avoid a similar fate or worse.
Or to explain that what we are doing is somehow coded into every species that has advanced. We might simply be doing what others have already done before.

But it is curious, the trillions spent in developing MAD, yet out of it has come nuclear power, not just potential destruction. And restraint. The problem is the few loons who might take it further because they don’t have any real leadership skills other than fear.
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xandreu wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:40 am What a bizarre situation.

Billions, billions more and and yet more billions of dollars have been ploughed into developing the most advanced nuclear technology, mainly by the USA and Russia, but they aren't the only ones, and yet time and again, we, as the human race, find that we can't or won't actually use them in times of conflict. Despite the fact that they are specifically developed only for times of conflict.

Clearly, I'm not advocating that we should, but let's just take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

Imagine trying to explain ourselves as a race to an alien third party. Seriously, how do we explain ourselves without sounding like complete, utter idiots?

The USA have recently been a lot more open about UAP's (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon- the new name for UFO's, because using the phrase UFO has too much loony connotation attached with it) which means that there is a tiny, tiny possibility that we might, might, possibly be being observed by something of extra-terrestrial origin.

Perhaps they do exist and perhaps they have come here, but are trying to work out why a species would spend so much time and effort building technologies that could only ever result in it's own destruction, a fact that the species itself is aware of, yet continues to develop but won't ever use because it's aware that to do so would result in its own destruction. Yet it continues to.....

We must be absolutely intriguing to anything with more intelligence than us in the universe.
If everyone has nukes nobody will use them, so peace through everyone being armed up. Except if those we don't like have them, we can't allow them to develop nukes cos they're unstable nutters and they might push back against us when we piss them off. But at the same time, we'll happily sell other terrifying weapons to any nutter with the means to pay for them (especially if they want to use them against the people that can't be allowed to have nukes), and if they decide to use them to commit genocide somewhere, or shoot up a school or something well that's a damn shame, but as long as it doesn't affect me and money is made from it, it's just business.

Anything out there with more intelligence than us is probably just hoping we never get the ability to spread through the universe because we act like dicks everywhere we go.
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^ This clip of Zelenskyy is doing the rounds today

It's missing some context - namely he says this is what will happen if Ukraine loses and Russia then goes on to occupy/annex a NATO state so it is quite the what if. . .
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Genocide = equivalent to shooting up a school = equivalent to letting all the nutters in the world have nukes so we can all be safe and fair?

I’m clearly missing the plot of this argument. Maybe because I spend too much time at work?

Giving everyone nuclear weapons, especially nutters, does not make the world safer. The US spends a lot of time and treasure safeguarding the nuclear arsenal so nutters don’t get their hands on it.

Furthermore, the US (and most of the other countries in the world) don’t mass produce and sell chemical and biological weapons. They keep small amounts in labs trying to create treatments in case that does happen.

Even Hitler only used it on his own people (Jews) and Imperial Japan (the Chinese), not near peer adversaries.
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You have to remember that there are still two (2) countries that border Russia that are not a part of NATO, yet.
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