Negativity towards expats
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I think we know which stranger you are!atst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:11 pmYawnSingapore Slinger wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:02 pm A stranger walked up to the city gates and asked the guard "What sort of people live here?"
The guard asked back" What sort of people lived in the city you came from?"
"They were a terrible bunch of nasty,backstabbing,untrustworthy layabouts"
"I expect you will find the people here the same" replied the guard,as the stranger hurried on past.
Later another stranger approached the guard and asked "What sort of people live here?"
To which the guard replied"What were the people like in the city you came from?"
"They were a lovely,helpful bunch of people that couldn't do enough for you"said the stranger
"I expect you will find the people here just the same?"said the guard opening the gate.
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Google song dance all around the world and have a listen, this will be playing at my funeral.Singapore Slinger wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:15 pmI think we know which stranger you are!atst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:11 pmYawnSingapore Slinger wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:02 pm A stranger walked up to the city gates and asked the guard "What sort of people live here?"
The guard asked back" What sort of people lived in the city you came from?"
"They were a terrible bunch of nasty,backstabbing,untrustworthy layabouts"
"I expect you will find the people here the same" replied the guard,as the stranger hurried on past.
Later another stranger approached the guard and asked "What sort of people live here?"
To which the guard replied"What were the people like in the city you came from?"
"They were a lovely,helpful bunch of people that couldn't do enough for you"said the stranger
"I expect you will find the people here just the same?"said the guard opening the gate.
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No thanks think I'll give it a miss if that's ok with you?atst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:24 pmGoogle song dance all around the world and have a listen, this will be playing at my funeral.Singapore Slinger wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:15 pmI think we know which stranger you are!atst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:11 pmYawnSingapore Slinger wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:02 pm A stranger walked up to the city gates and asked the guard "What sort of people live here?"
The guard asked back" What sort of people lived in the city you came from?"
"They were a terrible bunch of nasty,backstabbing,untrustworthy layabouts"
"I expect you will find the people here the same" replied the guard,as the stranger hurried on past.
Later another stranger approached the guard and asked "What sort of people live here?"
To which the guard replied"What were the people like in the city you came from?"
"They were a lovely,helpful bunch of people that couldn't do enough for you"said the stranger
"I expect you will find the people here just the same?"said the guard opening the gate.
Re: Negativity towards expats
You and I may use the word racist, but it's not really correct if your white, the person who is offending you is prejudiced against you. I find quite a bit of prejudice in the suburbs of the city, from name calling to people not wanting your custom in shops. I also see many better of Khmer xenophobic, these people are very money orientated, because they have or have not. And to be honest why would you think you should be looked at any differently, they fuck each other over on a daily basis.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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I tend to agree with Mannanman. However, you can't have a relationship with Khmer people -- and especially with the women -- without money, not that that's relevant.
To respond to the original query: personally, I have never experienced negativity at all, (rude or indifferent service in restos not included). If you are polite and show some compassion, Khmer people respond well. If you are a loud monster, they will deal with you in kind.
However, there's one thing that cannot be categorized as positive or negative -- the simple strange fact that ALL Cambodians ALWAYS refer to foreigners and expats as 'farang' or 'barang' ...Even if you have a long-term relationship with someone, or their family -- I am sure -- when you are not around, someone among them will still use this term, 'farang', in reference to you. This recognition mechanism is such a strange thing among Khmer people; I think it reveals the extent to which they are insulated from the outside world by their language and culture... You are a farang/barang first, not a person, lol... Like or not, that is the way it is here...
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Re: Negativity towards expats
Not my experience. While it's extremely uncommon to call someone by his or her name, I don't think I'm being referred to as 'Barang' (anymore). Usually it's either 'bong' (which is very in-precise) or 'Pa followed by the name of my kid'. The latter is a very common way to refer to people. I can't remember the last time I was refered to as 'Barang' (Khmer never use the word Farang).orichá wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:34 am However, there's one thing that cannot be categorized as positive or negative -- the simple strange fact that ALL Cambodians ALWAYS refer to foreigners and expats as 'farang' or 'barang' ...Even if you have a long-term relationship with someone, or their family -- I am sure -- when you are not around, someone among them will still use this term, 'farang', in reference to you. This recognition mechanism is such a strange thing among Khmer people; I think it reveals the extent to which they are insulated from the outside world by their language and culture... You are a farang/barang first, not a person, lol... Like or not, that is the way it is here...
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In our village everybody calls me Om Barang, I tried half heartedly to get them to call me by name but it never caught on, but it’s not an issue for me, and jokingly calling them out for it invokes good humored laughter all round.Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:46 amNot my experience. While it's extremely uncommon to call someone by his or her name, I don't think I'm being referred to as 'Barang' (anymore). Usually it's either 'bong' (which is very in-precise) or 'Pa followed by the name of my kid'. The latter is a very common way to refer to people. I can't remember the last time I was refered to as 'Barang' (Khmer never use the word Farang).orichá wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:34 am However, there's one thing that cannot be categorized as positive or negative -- the simple strange fact that ALL Cambodians ALWAYS refer to foreigners and expats as 'farang' or 'barang' ...Even if you have a long-term relationship with someone, or their family -- I am sure -- when you are not around, someone among them will still use this term, 'farang', in reference to you. This recognition mechanism is such a strange thing among Khmer people; I think it reveals the extent to which they are insulated from the outside world by their language and culture... You are a farang/barang first, not a person, lol... Like or not, that is the way it is here...
As you say, half of the adults here are not called by their names, rather by their being mother or father of (insert child’s name)
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Perhaps you have invested enough love in your relationships. However, I am speaking about the situation in general. Among most Cambodians, you are perceived automatically first as a farang/barang...Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:46 amNot my experience. While it's extremely uncommon to call someone by his or her name, I don't think I'm being referred to as 'Barang' (anymore). Usually it's either 'bong' (which is very in-precise) or 'Pa followed by the name of my kid'. The latter is a very common way to refer to people. I can't remember the last time I was refered to as 'Barang' (Khmer never use the word Farang).orichá wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:34 am However, there's one thing that cannot be categorized as positive or negative -- the simple strange fact that ALL Cambodians ALWAYS refer to foreigners and expats as 'farang' or 'barang' ...Even if you have a long-term relationship with someone, or their family -- I am sure -- when you are not around, someone among them will still use this term, 'farang', in reference to you. This recognition mechanism is such a strange thing among Khmer people; I think it reveals the extent to which they are insulated from the outside world by their language and culture... You are a farang/barang first, not a person, lol... Like or not, that is the way it is here...
BTW, farang is the term I hear most often where I live.
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Yes, even my daughter who has a Khmer passport is first and foremost "kon barang", never once has she been called "kon Khmer". However, she is never called "borotay" (foreigner), like we frequently are (when they don't want to say "barang" in front of our face), and non-Khmer Asians are as well.orichá wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:34 am However, there's one thing that cannot be categorized as positive or negative -- the simple strange fact that ALL Cambodians ALWAYS refer to foreigners and expats as 'farang' or 'barang' ...Even if you have a long-term relationship with someone, or their family -- I am sure -- when you are not around, someone among them will still use this term, 'farang', in reference to you. This recognition mechanism is such a strange thing among Khmer people; I think it reveals the extent to which they are insulated from the outside world by their language and culture... You are a farang/barang first, not a person, lol... Like or not, that is the way it is here...
I'd still much rather be here than among the wokists, whatever the case!
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