In Canada each province is responsible for their own health care legislation and so we have a patchwork of approaches as well generally along with the local politics. Provinces like Alberta tend to dislike the central government and are more like Texas than the eastern provinces and have more issues with rules and regulations and favour more freedom.

Generally though Canadians are more apt to follow the rules and we are not quite as divided as the US. Our vaccine uptake is well above the US and we pretty well follow mask mandates etc which is why we have lower death rates.

I'm reading all the time about how fed up the medical community is with unvaccinated people taking up all the hospital space and demanding unproven treatments.

it is beyond control now - graph from USA
Hopefully the opinions re reduced severity will be true.
If so, this should herald the end of the pandemic

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

nemo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:41 pm Citation?
Be sure to include their vax rate
Until then

Just have a quick glance at total cases and deaths (so far), then compare to population size... It's not complicated. 2+2-1=3 Quick Maths.
France: 9.3M cases---121-123k deaths (Population=67M)
UK: 12.6M cases---148k deaths (Population=67M)
Australia: 341K cases---2200 deaths (Population=25M)
Canada: 2.1M cases---30K deaths (Population=38M)

Source: WorldMeters/COVID-19 Data Repository by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University
I'll let you Google their respective vax rates yourself as they're quite similar. Plus, I doubt the rates matter much with efficacy waning so quickly.

It's clear that even taking population size into account, both Australia and Canada have had far fewer cases/deaths per capita than the UK and France, despite both being highly decentralized federations with states/provinces having their own approaches to the pandemic. So claiming that a centralized, unified approach is somehow the only way to go is factually wrong as there are a ton of other factors that come into play. Some unitary states did quite well (New-Zealand, for example), but others did not. What matters more is the government(s) making the right choices in a timely manner. Doesn't help to have a highly centralized decision-making apparatus if the decision(s) made are bad in the first place. The US is just one example, but then again the whole point of a federal system is that Texas can do whatever the fuck they want, while Massachusetts can do what they want...

At this point they are literally tracking a cold. There are always spikes in hospitalisations at this time of year. They have to ride this much weaker strain out, build up herd immunity (finally) and crack on with life. Two years of this bullshit is enough. If you know someone who died with COVID, my condolences but they died with COVID, not because of it. Average age of death is still around 85 and people do die eventually.

orichá wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:15 pm

General Mackevili wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:29 am Is it time yet that we can all agree we just need to get on with our lives?

It's been 2 years. The 'scientists' have obviously been doing a poor job working with governments to get this

(Etc, etc, etc)

I personally believe we're at a turning point in this whole pandemic, and within a month or two we'll all start seeing the tone in the news do a sharp pivot, as there's no way (I hope) they can keep this up for much longer at this stage.

If everyone had got vaccinated at the beginning (as they ought to have done) instead of becoming a lot of selfish anti-vaxxers wallowing in conspiracy theory and misbegotten concepts of personal rights and liberties, well, yeah, we could have been over all this by now. But as people insist on being foolish and arrogant -- on and on it goes!!!

Get ready for your 6th injection:

Netherlands Announces Plan To Give People Up to Six Doses of COVID Vaccine

https://www.newsweek.com/netherlands-va ... ot-1664296

General Mackevili wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:44 pm Get ready for your 6th injection:

Ghost Boosters !
Designed to scare the people i guess

"If you've had a dose of a freaky ghost baby, you better call Ghost Boosters !'

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:00 pm

nerdlinger wrote:

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:05 pm

nemo wrote:BBC radio is now reporting a 75% increase in hospitalizations in the past week.
They also mention that dtat for this previous week will be flawed due to poor reporting during the holidays.

Media is full of shit, I was looking at all the stats yesterday,
cases are sky high, up 30.5% and the highest they have ever been during the whole pandemic,
yet hospital cases are only up 8.2%

Click through from the summary page and read those stats more carefully. As of today (29th) the stats from the site you quote still only have hospital admissions going up to Dec 20th. 75% over Xmas sounds perfectly plausible.

Yeah sorry didn’t realise the hospital graph was only to the 20th as the other two are to the 27th,
still you’re going off stats reported by the media, at the start of omicron there were reports there was 2-300 people in hospital with the new variant, it was in fact <10

Updated stats:


From mid-700s to over 2000 in less than a fortnight.

Username Taken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:38 am ^^^ You could add some meaning to that chart by adding:
- underlying medical conditions
- vaccinated Vs unvaccinated

That would be nice to know, but the site doesn’t seem to publish those numbers. It has a breakdown by age and sex but not vaccinated status. (…he said, dreading the inevitable dickheads who will claim it’s because of deliberate censorship to conceal the dark truth about vaccines, or find some way to inject some transphobia into the discussion for no reason)