The Paris Peace Agreements brought peace. It allowed the Vietnamese to leave Cambodia and the Khmers a chance to govern themselves. What Cambodia has done since then, that’s been up to them.

That’s my realpolitik view.
My opinions are entirely my own.

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newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:02 pm The Paris Peace Agreements brought peace. It allowed the Vietnamese to leave Cambodia and the Khmers a chance to govern themselves. What Cambodia has done since then, that’s been up to them.

That’s my realpolitik view.
My opinions are entirely my own.

The Vietnamese withdrew in 1989, 2 years before these Paris Peace Agreements. The agrrements are often lauded as "bringing peace" to Cambodia. They certainly did a lot to bring peace by bringing the ANS (FUNCINPEC Royalist Army) and KPNLF (Nationalist army composed of former Lon Nol supporters/ Republicans) into the fold. Not that those alliances always lasted long. The war with the so-called Khmer Rouge expanded after the UN left and didn't end till the late 90s. The UN and international community like to claim Cambodia as a success story, in reality if it wasn't for the boss and his win win policy the place would still be in ruins.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:00 am

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:02 pm The Paris Peace Agreements brought peace. It allowed the Vietnamese to leave Cambodia and the Khmers a chance to govern themselves. What Cambodia has done since then, that’s been up to them.

That’s my realpolitik view.
My opinions are entirely my own.

The Vietnamese withdrew in 1989, 2 years before these Paris Peace Agreements. The agrrements are often lauded as "bringing peace" to Cambodia. They certainly did a lot to bring peace by bringing the ANS (FUNCINPEC Royalist Army) and KPNLF (Nationalist army composed of former Lon Nol supporters/ Republicans) into the fold. Not that those alliances always lasted long. The war with the so-called Khmer Rouge expanded after the UN left and didn't end till the late 90s. The UN and international community like to claim Cambodia as a success story, in reality if it wasn't for the boss and his win win policy the place would still be in ruins.

Exactly right! I am starting to think the op is either trolling with that article or working on supporting American foreign policy against Cambodia. The focus of many of these articles is framing the eradication of the CNRP and their backers failed attempts at sabotaging the Cambodian Government as a human rights issue. HRW's agenda being a case in point.

"HRW has provoked politically and socially toxic environments through consistently fabricating misleading information and launching groundless attacks against Cambodia since the early 1990s. Truth be told, it fails to recognize the achievements made by the Royal Government of Cambodia in lifting millions of people from poverty. The rights to live and livelihoods are the most important human rights above all. We cannot talk about human rights if the people are hungry, and their livelihoods are under threat.
It is crystal clear that HRW’s core members have had a long history of grudges against Cambodian leaders whom they have accused of violating human rights without presenting credible facts or evidence. Their ambition is to bring down the legitimate government by provoking people’s discontent with and mistrust of the government."

"To understand the nature of HRW, we need to understand its roots. Founded in 1978 during the Cold War, HRW was initially named Helsinki Watch to monitor the former Soviet Union’s implementation of the 1975 Helsinki Accords and to examine and criticize “crimes” committed by the former Soviet Union and its allies, which has led to the long-standing Cold-War ideology carried out by the group under the disguise of a human rights organization. It is founded based on political ideology and propaganda. Clearly, HRW was a by-product of the Cold War whose raison d’etre would have ceased after the Cold War ended."
Relevant paragraphs cut from a KT article illustrating my perspective https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50917270/h ... m-project/

I came here first in 1989 and have observed the development of the country as only a few other old time expats have. The change is dramatic. To claim nothing has changed is a very narrow-minded U. S. influenced view, propagated by former CNRP leaders. Admittedly the progress has been mostly on the economic front, but as Kuroneko said hungry people don't care about political or human rights. One also has to take into account the mentality of the people in judging overall development. There is much to be done on the political front but 30 years is nothing in terms of development. A good example is Thailand, which is advanced economically but politically still a hotbed and they had a head start of 30 years on Cambodia. Corruption is inherent in emerging countries, and far from non-existent in industrial nations. Yes, development is lopsided. No democracy in the world was born overnight. Don't expect miracles in countries with no democratic history at all.

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:10 pm i'll answer my question , has anything gotten better.

NOPE

I'm gobsmacked that anyone can seriously say that. Lies like that may work for a foreign audience, but many of us have seen the changes with our own eyes and we aren't going to buy that garbage.

I have observed before that sometimes expats who present propaganda against the government find EOS are declined.