Freightdog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:18 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:15 pm

hanno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:04 pm

Darkcel wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:36 pm

Railroad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:32 pm

With respect, death toll is currently 4.8 million approx.
That's less than the 6 million usually accepted as the Holocaust toll.

Dunno what the quoted phrase means...has some cryptic meaning maybe?

Usually the accepted toll is 1.4m

Only by holocaust deniers.

The correct term is Holocaust revisionism, but let's not quibble.

Digressing somewhat, but imho

Holocaust Revisionism is a fancy term that almost gives the deniers some credibility.
Like giving an idiot employee a fancy job title as a salve because they’re not worth a pay rise and you can’t fire them.


Is it a lack of desire for answers, or a realisation that you could spend six months asking pertinent questions, and never really getting clear concise and consistent responses, as it’s all tied up in arse protecting, politics, diplomacy and other agendas?
I’m sure their are genuine training courses on how to talk at length without saying Anything.

Yup.

Back to the topic.

It’s a sad facet of human nature that we’re desperate to be able to have someone to blame. If we can find someone to punish, then maybe it’ll feel like we have control over our lives again or that some sort of cosmic justice has been enacted.

The cruel irony is that it’s the same sentiment that’s allowed the virus to propagate amongst the anti-mask/anti-vax / anti-lockdown crowd - a feeling of “this bad thing can’t be happening for no reason, so it must be the government’s fault, and the government are telling me I have to live with these restrictions, but if the whole thing was their fault then I’m morally in the clear not to comply…”

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:01 pm
Humans, more specifically the CCP leadership of China knew for 2 and a half weeks that the virus was being transmitted from human to human and they lied about it and applied all available political pressure to keep international travel from China open. Why? To ensure the pain was shared.

They are the enemy of all freedom loving people. And they are responsible for the pandemic.

Mate, you really need to spend some time away from the internet, it’s rotting your brain.

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:00 pm

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:01 pm
Humans, more specifically the CCP leadership of China knew for 2 and a half weeks that the virus was being transmitted from human to human and they lied about it and applied all available political pressure to keep international travel from China open. Why? To ensure the pain was shared.

They are the enemy of all freedom loving people. And they are responsible for the pandemic.

Mate, you really need to spend some time away from the internet, it’s rotting your brain.

Regardless of my brain, the Washington Post did an in depth report on the timeline and decisions made by the CCP in January of 2020. They made POLITICAL decisions, not medical or benevolent decisions. The decisions made by the CCP are all about what is best for the CCP.

So you can insult me all you want. The CCP is the enemy of all freedom loving people and responsible for the pandemic that has impacted the world.

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:00 pm

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:01 pm
Humans, more specifically the CCP leadership of China knew for 2 and a half weeks that the virus was being transmitted from human to human and they lied about it and applied all available political pressure to keep international travel from China open. Why? To ensure the pain was shared.

They are the enemy of all freedom loving people. And they are responsible for the pandemic.

Mate, you really need to spend some time away from the internet, it’s rotting your brain.

On one hand they are a super power but doing it with cash, infrastructure and loans and on the other (TWY) they want to kill their customers.

Utter nonsense.

Next he’ll be saying the USA financed the Wuhan lab and it’s all a conspiracy by “them” - them being Jews, bankers (same), big pharma and a few select individuals that have interests in all companies that benefit from the pandemic - not forgetting most are public companies listed on all the big money markets run and managed by shareholders.

Ironically, part of the lack of a desire for such answers is probably due to wanting to prevent a world war.

Plus, no one wants to talk about the Amish control of the media.

mannanman wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:11 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:00 pm

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:01 pm
Humans, more specifically the CCP leadership of China knew for 2 and a half weeks that the virus was being transmitted from human to human and they lied about it and applied all available political pressure to keep international travel from China open. Why? To ensure the pain was shared.

They are the enemy of all freedom loving people. And they are responsible for the pandemic.

Mate, you really need to spend some time away from the internet, it’s rotting your brain.

On one hand they are a super power but doing it with cash, infrastructure and loans and on the other (TWY) they want to kill their customers.

Utter nonsense.

Next he’ll be saying the USA financed the Wuhan lab and it’s all a conspiracy by “them” - them being Jews, bankers (same), big pharma and a few select individuals that have interests in all companies that benefit from the pandemic - not forgetting most are public companies listed on all the big money markets run and managed by shareholders.

I'd say you have a total lack of understanding of the CCP. They don't care about anything other than ensuring the enduring rule of the CCP. When the outbreak took place they were faced with several choices. They could follow the WHO's established procedures and alert the international medical community and have international experts injected into the country to help control/monitor the outbreak. That is what the protocol is. Strongmen and dictators in Africa have consistently made that choice. The CCP didn't.

Why? Because the CCP doesn't view things the way we do. This wasn't a public health crisis - it was a POTENTIAL political crisis. Follow the procedures and the CCP looks weak. Foreigners assume partial control of the response. China is painted in a weakened state in the foreign media and even domestic media ask questions (especially true if Wuhan lab is involved - which it is). China's economy is hit during the response. Nothing positive for the CCP in the political sense from this scenario.

Other options were on the table. Lie and let the virus out of the country was a viable scenario and one that they chose and then PROMOTED by their actions. Now the CCP doesn't have to explain to its citizens why the economy tanks - everyone economy tanks. The CCP can use its advantages of being an authoritative government to better put down the spread of the virus compared to free countries. Now the CCP can later look good. Plus, if the virus is out of the country less ability of other countries to focus on what really happened - giving the CCP time to cover up the work done at the Wuhan labs. And the CCP lives on!

I know the global Marxists hate it when the light of truth is shined upon Communism. From Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot, it is nothing but failure and death.

Again, The CCP is totally responsible for the global pandemic. They are the enemy of all freedom loving people.

Quite a few people are using the argument that covid is a natural occurrence and therefore nobody is to blame.

They might be right, they might be wrong. But no-one can deny that there aren't enough questions surrounding whether this is true or not that demand to be answered. For a start, there are apparently only three known laboratories in the world that conduct gain of function research into viruses such as corona viruses. One of them just happens to be in the very same city that, as far as we know, the first case of covid happened. Never mind the many other questions that need to be answered, especially surrounding China's initial response, just that one single fact that the first case of covid just happened to occur in one of the only three cities in the world that carries out the type of research that makes outbreaks like this possible, warrants a full and thorough investigation. In anyone's book. Surely?

It would be the same as living in one of only three towns in the world with a chocolate factory, waking up one morning, finding everything covered in chocolate, and asking yourself 'I wonder where all that chocolate came from?'

It either is a natural event with no-one to blame or it isn't. And if it isn't, who or what is responsible?

If ever there was an event where the world needed answers, this would be it. Where are they?

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:54 pm I know the global Marxists hate it when the light of truth is shined upon Communism. From Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot, it is nothing but failure and death.

Again, The CCP is totally responsible for the global pandemic. They are the enemy of all freedom loving people.