Aircon usage

BOFH · Post by **BOFH** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:46 pm

StroppyChops wrote:There's another one?

Yeah, they opened it over a year ago. Wat Phnom office only does bill payments nowadays as far as I know.

When they turn you off because your neighbor gave you the bill the day it had to be paid you need to travel out near by the stadium to hand them the 10KKHR bribe. That's where they do all the admin stuff.

StroppyChops wrote:Our power bill nearly doubled last month from $80 to $140. I firmly believe at least one of the neighbors is jacked in on our supply though. Neighbors with similar equipment/usage are paying under $50pm at the moment.

You should get that checked ASAP. Make sure to get somebody competent. Or just, you know, go for holiday with your power switched off and check the meter when you're back

On the other hand, are you sure that you're not running more transformers than the others in your area? By usage I guess you don't mean the recorded kWh.

BOFH · Post by **BOFH** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:49 pm

Hell, my power was $20 last month. That includes fridge, washing machine, servers and other computers that are practically running 24/7. When I was running aircon it was $120. You see why I stopped :-)

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:51 pm

BOFH wrote:You should get that checked ASAP. Make sure to get somebody competent. Or just, you know, go for holiday with your power switched off and check the meter when you're back

On the other hand, are you sure that you're not running more transformers than the others in your area? By usage I guess you don't mean the recorded kWh.

I'm going to bring in a third-party electrician when I can find a competent one that speaks English. The landlord's niece lives next door and his nephew lives three doors down, conveniently there are no sub mains in our house but when the power trips it needs to be reset from next door. I've challenged him directly on it, he's adamant there's nothing dodgy going on. Also considering putting one of those cheap apartment meters in and comparing it to the EDC bill. Will get around to switching off the house and then checking the meter for activity.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:54 pm

BOFH wrote:On the other hand, are you sure that you're not running more transformers than the others in your area?

There's a couple of laptop, monitor, mini-server transformers running constantly, and three small UPS, bit can't imagine they'd make that much difference.

Also have a couple of black-out light/fans sitting on charge.

BOFH · Post by **BOFH** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:00 pm

StroppyChops wrote:I'm going to bring in a third-party electrician when I can find a competent one that speaks English. The landlord's niece lives next door and his nephew lives three doors down, conveniently there are no sub mains in our house but when the power trips it needs to be reset from next door. I've challenged him directly on it, he's adamant there's nothing dodgy going on. Also considering putting one of those cheap apartment meters in and comparing it to the EDC bill. Will get around to switching off the house and then checking the meter for activity.

This sounds very dodgy. Your landlord's niece doesn't happen to be studying to be an electrician, just to add to it?

So, the box for your supply is actually inside somebody else's house? Almost sounds like it was built to be tampered with. Get a meter no doubt. Even if you send somebody in to check it there's nothing that stops them from removing those wires conveniently for your electrician friend.

StroppyChops wrote:There's a couple of laptop, monitor, mini-server transformers running constantly, and three small UPS, bit can't imagine they'd make that much difference.

I can't either. I literally have a hard time going above $25 without AC, so I guess that's a benchmark. I've got more things powered on when I'm not home than most others I know. Maybe you have a really aggressive microwave or something?

Na, I'm going to side with your speculations about your neighbors...

BOFH · Post by **BOFH** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:05 pm

Come to think of it. Getting the bill the way as Jacob does from his landlord may actually protect you against this sort of box hijacking, since the bill goes for the meter inside and not outside. Interesting perspective, I at least never thought of it from this angle.

A choice of robber. How convenient. Kingdom of Wonder.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:10 pm

Our premises has the meter on the post out on the road, but the wiring then disappears on its way into our property... not sure what fuse box is housed next door, and what mystery wires might run from it. That's why I'm thinking the cheap internal meter might suddenly scare the landlord.

YouTube · Post by **General Mackevili** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:34 pm

Jacobincambodia wrote:
BOFH wrote:
Jacobincambodia wrote:Interesting. Didn't know that was within my control. Something to think about...
If you want to save face you can always have EDC disconnect your landlord from the house and install your subscription separately. Then you show him his unchanged meter everytime he comes by to check.

All extra that you pay on a non-EDC electricity bill is literally tea money. Official price for going to and from EDC wouldn't be more than $5 even by taxi from the other side of town. Offer him $5 compensation or something.
What about my contract? It says I will pay .30/kWh. And do I mention we are in an apartment complex?

Personally, I think you have a ZERO chance of doing what BOFH is suggesting.

You pay what the landlord asks, negotiate something lower, or move.

I don't even think EDC would come and hook your single apartment up to private line. If that were even possible, the landlord would do it for each individual apartment, as the price for electricity is cheaper per account if you don't use over a certain threshold.

And there is also no chance you could show up at EDC and say, "Oh, I'm not paying the whole bill for the apartment complex, I just want to pay for what my meter says in my room."

Spoiler:

Jacobincambodia · Post by **Jacobincambodia** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:35 pm

BOFH wrote:Come to think of it. Getting the bill the way as Jacob does from his landlord may actually protect you against this sort of box hijacking, since the bill goes for the meter inside and not outside. Interesting perspective, I at least never thought of it from this angle.

A choice of robber. How convenient. Kingdom of Wonder.

No ladder required. I just open the box and check the numbers. Makes me want to invest in an inverter air con. I had it on 24 last night in auto mode from 8-6 or so and it saved us .75. Wow.

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:13 pm

I would get one of the places that sells and installs air-conditioners to come and put a meter and a switch by your aircon [ the same as mine in the photo ]. My estimate ,,, $15 for meter, $3 for switch . wiring $2 and $20 for the electrician. When you move house you can take the meter with you, as it just involves turning off the switch and removing.

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