Murder or Suicide in Thai Man's Fall From Poipet Casino ?

CEOCambodiaNews · Post by **CEOCambodiaNews** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:44 pm

Authorities are investigating the case of a Thai man who fell from the building of Palace Casino Hotel in Poipet and died.
11:20 am 31 July 2021 162

Cambodia News, (Banteay Meanchey): Authorities are investigating the case of a Thai man who fell from the 14-storey Palace Hotel and Casino. The man reportedly fell from the first floor of the building, which is still under construction, and died immediately, at 21:05 on July 30, 2021 in Kbal Spean 1 Village, Sangkat Poipet, Poipet City, Banteay Meanchey Province.

According to the authorities, the victim was a Thai national, named Varis Phanthanat Si. Ride Chay, male, born on February 17, 1982, residing at house 11/3, village 4, Ta Kien Thieu commune, district Bang Lamung, Chonburi Province, Thailand, owner of a card from Palace Casino No. T-311-04 in Room 312 3rd floor.

After receiving the information, the police immediately arrived at the scene and inspected the scene of the fall, and then the police continued on to the first floor of the building under construction, where there are no rooms, and a mobile phone was found at the scene.

After inspecting the scene, the police took a sample of the corpse, who tested negative for illegal drugs and forCovid 19.

Authorities are currently investigating whether the fall was a suicide or a murder.

BillDoe · Post by **BillDoe** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 pm

I have 10 bucks on suicide

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:47 pm

Gambling debt resulting in suicide or murder. Who knows? I've never even been in a casino, I don't understand the attraction.

Ozinasia · Post by **Ozinasia** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:11 pm

If you were wanting to Suicide why would you jump from the first floor of a 14 floor building and chance living ? Surly you would go to the roof top.
Deffo smell a rat here.
Mind you if shoe was on other foot and it was a falang in Thailand it would already be deemed Suicide case closed.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:27 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:47 pm Gambling debt resulting in suicide or murder. Who knows? I've never even been in a casino, I don't understand the attraction.

I used to go to casinos sometimes with friends, but you take only the money you are prepared to lose and we would make up on the free drinks.

Long time ago anyhow, and I'm not a gambler by nature.

From what the OP says, the Thai man was a serious gambler (had a casino card), so yeah, I'd go with a bad run of luck and suicide. Sad ending.
And why would you kill someone who owes you money ? Doesn't make sense.

Spoiler:

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:12 pm

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:27 pm And why would you kill someone who owes you money ? Doesn't make sense.

It makes a lot of sense. It discourages other punters from trying to fuck you over. Drug dealers do it, so I'd imagine gangsters in other fields do too.

Grand Barong · Post by **Grand Barong** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:20 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:12 pm
Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:27 pm And why would you kill someone who owes you money ? Doesn't make sense.
It makes a lot of sense. It discourages other punters from trying to fuck you over. Drug dealers do it, so I'd imagine gangsters in other fields do too.

"Kill One - Frighten Ten Thousand" (Sun Tzu)

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:55 pm

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:27 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:47 pm Gambling debt resulting in suicide or murder. Who knows? I've never even been in a casino, I don't understand the attraction.
I used to go to casinos sometimes with friends, but you take only the money you are prepared to lose and we would make up on the free drinks. Long time ago anyhow, and I'm not a gambler by nature.

From what the OP says, the Thai man was a serious gambler (had a casino card), so yeah, I'd go with a bad run of luck and suicide. Sad ending.
And why would you kill someone who owes you money ? Doesn't make sense.
Spoiler:
Yes, I know. Not everything makes sense.

I think this is something I don't understand with the Chinese that go there to gamble. With all the kidnappings, extortion, suicides, murders related to this, it seems like they are not losing just their shirt but then some (actually a lot).. I mean can they not leave after they've lost all their money? Are there loan sharks roaming around the tables pushing loans? Punters figure they will win back what they've lost?

I know in my younger days playing the pokies I would put too much into a machine thinking I can't leave it till it paid back what I'd lost but in the end it wasn't too much money.. OTOH these guys are obviously getting into heaps of gambling debts big time...enough it seems that it results in suicide, extortion, kidnappings etc

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:12 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:55 pm I think this is something I don't understand with the Chinese that go there to gamble. With all the kidnappings, extortion, suicides, murders related to this, it seems like they are not losing just their shirt but then some (actually a lot).. I mean can they not leave after they've lost all their money? Are there loan sharks roaming around the tables pushing loans? Punters figure they will win back what they've lost?

I know in my younger days playing the pokies I would put too much into a machine thinking I can't leave it till it paid back what I'd lost but in the end it wasn't too much money.. OTOH these guys are obviously getting into heaps of gambling debts big time...enough it seems that it results in suicide, extortion, kidnappings etc

Well as I alluded to, I don't really get gambling at all. However I have heard countless tales of people losing not just their shirt but their car, house, overseas properties etc. So for example a fairly affluent "foreigner" might move here and open a business. Unfortunately he likes gambling too much. Gradually he loses all his capital, and in the endless mental cycle of a gambler thinks he can win it back. He pawns his car, his premises and then goes to a loan shark to get some more cash. He defaults on this. Then some Triad fuckers turn up. Where's the money motherfucker? Call your wife in China, we know where she lives. Get her to send you $50,000. Sell your house in China. When they get the money they can still get rid of the mark just to cover the trail. Lucky these guys are only targeting mainlanders so far.

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:17 pm

Just to add, I do know people who have done very well from gambling. Poker players etc. I'm more talking about the hopeless ones who lose at chance games.

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