Visa expectations

BillDoe · Post by **BillDoe** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:05 pm

[Mod Edit: Photos of dead bodies. View at your own risk]

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sigmoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:05 pm
BillDoe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:51 am
nerdlinger wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:47 am
mcam wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:09 am You won't be coming here in December. No tourist Visas.
You seem pretty certain of yourself there, do you have anything to back that up?
The almost thousand cases and 30 deaths daily?
Yes, all countries should seal their borders and force citizens to stay at home and starve until that glorious day that death is eliminated arrives and universal immortality is achieved.

This is the only way that humanity can be saved from this deadly disease.

No big deal huh, fuck those families amiright guys? Just open them bars back up so we can all go get some poontang! A very serious pandemic is happening.

Post by **Freightdog** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:22 pm

BillDoe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:05 pm (Images don’t really need repeating)
sigmoid wrote:
BillDoe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:51 am
nerdlinger wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:47 am
mcam wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:09 am You won't be coming here in December. No tourist Visas.
You seem pretty certain of yourself there, do you have anything to back that up?
The almost thousand cases and 30 deaths daily?
Yes, all countries should seal their borders and force citizens to stay at home and starve until that glorious day that death is eliminated arrives and universal immortality is achieved.

This is the only way that humanity can be saved from this deadly disease.
No big deal huh, fuck those families amiright guys? Just open them bars back up so we can all go get some poontang! A very serious pandemic is happening.

What is this desperate need to twist one persons words to another meaning? You’ve personally quoted several previous posts, and then suggest that in that dialogue is the inference of no big deal. Is the fear of this thing so intense that people have lost any sense of perspective?
While it should not be written of as no big deal, there is some perverse desire among some for everyone to observe some sort of dystopian existence, as if that’s the solution.
Some balance and common sense are required. In the same way that lifting restrictions highlights how incredibly dumb people of otherwise normal intelligence can behave, en-masse.
This needs to happen before the aftermath of the pandemic turns into something so much worse.

nerdlinger · Post by **nerdlinger** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:05 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:01 pm So what do you think the odds are Cambodia will be open for tourists, without any form of quarantine, in December 2021?

Open to all tourists with no restrictions, tests or caveats probably not so high. But open to double-jabbed tourists from “safe” countries who can produce a negative test, like a lot of countries have started doing? I’d say better than 50:50.

nerdlinger · Post by **nerdlinger** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:33 am

There’s also a case to be made that closing borders when there were single-digit case numbers makes more sense than staying closed once the virus has become endemic. Once you’ve got to the stage where local transmission far outweighs imported cases then economic harm becomes a bigger factor.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:11 am

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:05 am
Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:01 pm So what do you think the odds are Cambodia will be open for tourists, without any form of quarantine, in December 2021?
Open to all tourists with no restrictions, tests or caveats probably not so high. But open to double-jabbed tourists from “safe” countries who can produce a negative test, like a lot of countries have started doing? I’d say better than 50:50.

We'll see.
Personally I think this mess will take another year, at least. Fuelled by all the schools still being closed and not a single thought about re-opening those.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:15 am

^ some grim pictures @BillDoe

BillDoe · Post by **BillDoe** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:45 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:15 am ^ some grim pictures @BillDoe

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Unfortunately we'll be seeing more pictures like that due to people like Sigmoid.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:56 am

BillDoe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:45 am
Kammekor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:15 am ^ some grim pictures @BillDoe
Unfortunately we'll be seeing more pictures like that due to people like Sigmoid.

I'm not so sure of that. Pandemics tend to simply run their course and people feeling they can interfere on a large scale are overestimating their levels of influence IMHO.

There's no end to this until this virus has either evolved into something relatively harmless or the majority of the world's population has protection in the form of antibodies.
Since the virus doesn't seem to move towards a simple coronavirus we already have antibodies for we will have to sit it out and hope the Chinese vaccins will work. If they don't we're in this for the long haul with only 1.000 infected per day. That would mean 4.500 days (about 12 years) until 50% of Cambodian people have antibodies.
For me, with 30 deaths a day, I guess we're seeing 3-5.000 infections per day in Cambodia. Even with 5.000 per day it would take about 5 years for 50% of the Cambodians to have antibodies.

Fingers crossed the Sino-vaccin makers got it right.

mannanman · Post by **mannanman** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:47 am

BillDoe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:45 am
Kammekor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:15 am ^ some grim pictures BillDoe
Unfortunately we'll be seeing more pictures like that due to people like Sigmoid.

Well that picture is from Myanmar not Cambodia, but I guess it’s still Asia.

It’s a morgue. It’s where bodies are. Always.

nerdlinger · Post by **nerdlinger** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:31 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:15 am ^ some grim pictures BillDoe

Also rather a disproportionate and extreme response to sigmoid’s post in my view.
I don’t know what sigmoid has said about the virus response in the past, but I didn’t think their post here was making a particularly controversial point once you look past the sarcasm.

Bit weird how there’s been many discussions on here where people confidently make pig-ignorant assertions about vaccines etc not working and it’s taken as a valid opinion, but as soon as someone suggests that covid isn’t going to go away and we’re going to have to find a balance somewhere and it’s LOOK AT THESE PHOTOS OF DEAD BODIES EVERYONE

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